• save_vs_death [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    59·
    10 months ago

    the revolution will be exclusively televised using the colours in one of those colour blindness tests so 10% of the population can go “wtf, it’s just a blank screen, what’s everyone going apeshit about”

    • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      38·
      10 months ago

      The west, even the US used to have such programs, meals on wheels and such. But they’ve been gutted and abandoned in recent years.

  • Raebxeh [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    49·
    10 months ago

    We live in a world where disabled people disproportionately face food insecurity. We also live in a world where gig work companies are being “partnered with” by other companies as a means to bust unions, worsen working conditions, and generally exploit their employees (no matter how much they insist on calling them contractors).

    The intersection of these 2 issues is such a weird place for people to carve out hills to die on but people on Twitter manage to do it anyway.

  • ReadFanon [any, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    34·
    10 months ago

    This is a garbage take and it’s got the stink of “But if we have a car-free city then you’re ableist and you’re condemning people with mobility issues to being housebound!!” all over it.

    Fuck you for weaponizing disability in service of a structure that is inherently extremely ableist and which excludes the vast majority of people with disability from getting their basic needs met.

    Allow me to elaborate:

    Food delivery services are expensive. When we’re talking about the level of disability which requires regular food prep and delivery, we’re generally talking about a person who is unemployed or underemployed, and almost certainly underpaid and/or living in poverty who likely has to deal with significantly higher expenses with regards to healthcare as well as accessibility (think things like accomodation devices and similar: showering equipment, dishwashers, kitchen gadgets, modified kitchen counters and cupboards etc.)

    So you take people who are disproportionately poor and who have disproportionately high expenses for simply maintaining some level of autonomy, dignity, and health standards and then you say “But if we don’t have overpriced food delivery services available then that’s going to negatively impact people with disability!!”

    How about the fact that there is a major lack of in-home support services around the world that make economical home cooking inaccessible to this demographic?

    How about we address the inaccessibility inherent to society which creates a dependence upon food delivery services like the ones mentioned?

    How about we consider that the “solution” to inaccessible food for people with disability is something which is itself often extremely financially inaccessible to the very people who they are claiming it’s necessary for?

    You are neither the ally nor the advocate that you think you are when you deploy people with disability as a rhetorical bludgeon for your own selfish arguments.

    It really is easier to imagine the end of the world than it is to imagine the end of capitalism for people with liberal brainrot.

    (I can do the spiel on how car-free cities are much more accessible to people with mobility impairments and other disability if anyone cares but probably not and this rant is already long enough as it is.)

  • CrimsonSage@hexbear.netEnglish
    21·
    10 months ago

    I don’t think i understand is the original person she is responding to rightly complaining that door dash is not an employment option for disabled people? Is she disagreeing with that? I really don’t understand.

    If the argument is that ‘not giving accommodations to disabled people so thet can work for door dash is wrong’ then this is correct. On top of door dash just being an awful company to all workers in general, if they discriminate against disabled people that’s extra shitty.

      • CrimsonSage@hexbear.netEnglish
        26·
        10 months ago

        I can see how having a delivery service would be an important accommodation, but acting like door dash specifically is needed is fucked up. Like we already have a public service all throughout the country that does an incredible job deliving stuff and doesn’t use slave labor, just have the fucking post office do it.

        • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
          20·
          10 months ago

          Yes, absolutely. I kind of also suspect that most of people who engage in this sort of maximalist treat rhetoric are not housebound or anything but rather people who would like to have their personal convenience reified into something virtuous. And even if someone is relying on Doordash to literally survive, that’s a terrible situation! That itself is really bad and exploitative!

          It also doesn’t seem like much of a revolution if there are still gig workers afterwards

          • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
            17·
            10 months ago

            but rather people who would like to have their personal convenience reified into something virtuous.

            Starbucks Philanthropy.

            I now don’t have to feel bad about using Doordash (as a non-disabled Western consumer) because in fact what I am doing is supporting a business that is essential to the well being of disabled people.

            I am helping disabled people through my consumptive habits.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            8·
            10 months ago

            Eh. Lots f people are house-bound enough that while they technically can go out sometimes, doing so is extremely unpleasant and often painful. Delivery services really are very, very helpful for folks with disabilities. As in, during the worst parts of the two years I was too depressed to function there were long periods of time where the only hot food I got was delivery bc I couldn’t think well enough to cook anything.

            Plus, being disabled is terrifying. The services you rely on could disapear or be taken away at any time by the whim of the state or a corporation. People justifiably get very frightened and angry when the systems they use to get by are threatened, even if that threat is just shit talk on the internet.

  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]@hexbear.netEnglish
    16·
    10 months ago

    insane how the language of radicalism can be so quickly adopted by people with zero radical politics. like who mentioned “revolution” anywhere in this conversation? what does that word even mean to you?? why is it so important that your desire to see labor disciplined be framed as a radical political position??

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    14·
    10 months ago

    Is there more to this? I could generously interpret it as Colleen saying that we need to consider the needs of disabled people, and that door-dast is not capitalism successfully accomodating disabled people. ie agreeing with Khanate’s point

    Nope she’s just an asshole. Lot of people showing their whole asses, actually. The “Actually disabled people shouldn’t get food delivery services” crowd is bigger than I expected, which is to say I did not expect to see anyone claiming to be on the left argue that food delivery to disabled people, in itself, is bad. Gig economy? Bad. But lots of people need food delivered. Does Meals on Wheels still exist?

    • Helmic [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      10·
      10 months ago

      yeah unfortunately it’s extremely easy to come to a reductionist conclusion that because someone - even a disabled person that’s just kinda lib - said something that utterly dismisses the welfare of workers that then that means the literal words used are meaningless and bourgoise. food delivery - whether that be by shitty corporations charging an obscene surchrage, defunded programs like meals on wheels, or preferably you motherfuckers reading this right now constantly talking about how there’s no praxis for you to do getting on a fucking bike - is going to be part of a much larger structure of care for everyone, and relying on a strict medicalist definition of “disabled” through diagnosis will make shit much worse. make sure your neighbors are actually eating, even the ones you really don’t fucking like, because people don’t deserve to live or die based on whether you personally get along with them, and creating the dual power structures that enable everyone to continue existing as the US continues to crumble apart is going to be vital to any attempt at revolution.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        3·
        10 months ago

        reating the dual power structures that enable everyone to continue existing as the US continues to crumble apart is going to be vital to any attempt at revolution.

        Word. This is in one sentence why I’m increasingly sympathetic to Anarchist tactics and theory right now. I believe you need a state to fight a state, but I think it’s very likely that states as we know them are going to collapse under the weight of capitalism and global warming, and you can’t do an ML style takeover of a state that doesn’t exist or barely exists, doubly so if the world economy collapses rendering most functions of states superfluous. You could do Anarchism in pre-industrial society, but I’m not sure you can do ML style Communism, so I’m not sure 20th century ML communism will be viable under 21st century global warming induced post-industrial, or at least very disrupted industrial, conditions.