“I decided we would do an oral exam* because it’s a great way to see if people have actually learned anything from my course and aren’t just parroting notes. Because I can ask them to elaborate on their answers.”

Yeah and it’s also a great way to get otherwise good students to go blank because it isn’t possible to absorb every bit of complex information you spent 12 weeks rushing through, Barbara.

This “gotcha” style teaching fucking pisses me off. There is no time in the real world people are not going to be able to look up their notes. Fuck, half the time I’ll ask a professor something and they’ll be like “I’ll have to look that up later and get back to you.” Why? BECAUSE THEY’RE HUMAN AND THATS HOW BRAINS ARE.

This type of teaching only favours students that already had experience with the subject beforehand and freaks with amazing memories. This kind of understanding of the material only comes from experience and repetition, something that the traditional 12 weeks of rushed lectures/labs that discard each topic quickly to fit all of them in don’t do.

I fucking hate how much I am going into debt to be taught only the vaguest concepts but doing most of the teaching myself in my own time. Education under capitalism is a joke.

*An oral exam is an exam where instead of answering questions in a quiet room on paper, you have to answer questions on a live video call with your instructor.

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    To bei honest, I highly favour oral exams. This semester I had to chose between a 20 page termpaper or a 20 minute oral exam, which was a no-brainer to me. Writing a termpaper clashes with my ADHD. I have to keep tabs on like 15 books and the according notes and work on the project virtually uninterrupted for ~1 month without any kind of feedback until I hand it in? Thats a nightmare… Oral exams on the other hand are awesome. I can read like 2 books in the matter in around a week (because I don’t need to take notes) for preparation and can just geek out with my professor about the topic. I think I just favour the conversation style of the exam, when my prof reacts to my answer I can infer if it was right or if I should come back to it. I don’t think your opinion is wrong or something, but different flavours of neurodivergency have different needs. I really like that more offen than not I can choose the category of my exam :)

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      I have to keep tabs on like 15 books and the according notes and work on the project virtually uninterrupted for ~1 month without any kind of feedback

      The different manifestations of ADHD are fascinating, I don’t think I could work on anything for a month. I’d do literally anything else and finally sit down to write it in the last 24 hours*

      *Realistically last six hours

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        Haha me tooooo.

        I once got honors marks for a paper I wrote 4 hours before due date lmao

        And yet I once got a really bad score for a paper I tried to force myself to write a week early

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        I don’t have any kind of diagnosis, but I have some mild suspicions, and I have basically this problem on a shorter time scale at work.

        A significant part of my job duties is taking data from a bunch of tools and departments and writing up an email that lays that data out in a way that a stupid executive can understand. The emails only need to go out two or three times a day, which is good because they take about an hour to write up normally. Since that’s only 2 to 3 hours of work, it should be easily doable. I cannot force myself to start working on one of these emails until about 20 minutes before it’s due, at which point I rush through the process as quickly as possible.

        They’re usually like 20 to 30 minutes late, but my management thinks mine are really thorough so I think I’ve been a little shielded from consequences.

        I work faster under pressure, and I think I work better under pressure also, but I also hate pressure. It’s so goddamn stressful. I wish I just had a force of will to make myself start these fuckin things on time.

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          I’m about a decade into my career so I’m pretty relaxed about the pressure now, but it was pretty bad at uni and starting out.

          Being able to work quickly and make good decisions is a great skill, you just have to find something that isn’t like manufacturing human wood chippers.

          The trick is to find a job that is all fast paced urgent bullshit and have enough autonomy that no one bothers you during the downtime. It’s also helpful because if something’s so urgent people are calling you for five minutes updates, you get continual little motivational bumps.

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            This has been my experience too. Good luck finding such a job if you have a degree outside IT, though. Doubly if it’s a degree involving actually touching physical reality.

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          work faster under pressure, and I think I work better under pressure also, but I also hate pressure.

          My life.

          It can be used to your advantage if you are like me. Basically leave things to the last minute knowing that the pressure will make you finish and finish well. That frees up loads of time to do whatever. The trick is to not waste that time and/or use it to rest (because working under pressure is exhausting), depending on what’s going on.