• Hugh_Jeggs
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    2 months ago

    USA democracy oldest

    😂 Holy shit, your education system is sooooo fucked

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      2 months ago

      Wait, is there another? The US is often cited as the oldest democracy. It’s not the first of course, but that’s a different thing

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          2 months ago

          Technically the 6 Nations, which the US copied a lot of their democracy, is older by several thousand years, but people like to pretend they are all dead.

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          Those are pretty neat! I’m guessing the commenter who made the original statement was referring to countries so doubt this would invalidate their statement.

          The country I see people saying that’s older is England, but with the monarch messes things up depending on definitions (the US constitution even mentions the king quite a few times so was England considered a democracy yet?).

          It’s probably one of those things where the definition is loose enough that many different countries/organizations can claim to be the oldest and be right under whatever criteria they’ve decided

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                2 months ago

                No like seriously dude their parliament is very old. They just don’t have a constitution or a start date.

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                    The Magna fuckin Carta was just the Barons taking power away from the King.

                    It’s not even at the level of 3000 year old Ancient Helenic Democracy which itself was flawed as fuck (only free men got a say, no slaves or women).

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          2 months ago

          It’s probably a bit arbitrary, but best I can find England’s democracy is younger. Likely due to the king still having certain powers preventing England from being considered a democracy until a good bit after the founding of the US

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            2 months ago

            Yes, the american democracy is the oldest under a very narrow view of what constitutes a democracy, which basically the republic style yall invented, not even a real democracy anyways.

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      Well, oldest existing one to be precise but those before were so vastly different that we can safely ignore them and think in the context of existing political systems