How else will Jesus return unless those Satanic Muslims get driven out of the Holy Land so God can throw all of the Christ-Killing Jews into Hell?
I like that they think Jesus has a bunch of requirements to show up like they’re doing a summoning and that the result is the end of the world… and they WANT to cause that, because they think they’ll get to live forever because God chose them to be special so long as they try to make everyone live like them against their wills.
Maaaaybe they’re a cult.
Can you imagine being that arrogant?
Apparently, one of the requirements is “all the Jews convert to Christianity.” I guess I’m holding off Armageddon by refusing to convert. You’re welcome.
Completing an ancient ritual to become immortal/gain the power of a god(s) is the plan of the main villain of so much fiction, it’s a trope. If I had the time to throw away, I’d go into TV Tropes and find it
God, I hate that this isn’t even satire, but those guy’s actual believes.
Oh I know. As one of those hell-bound Jews, I’ve been hearing it from those fuckers for years and now they may get the chance if the U.S. allies with Israel in this war.
Hello fellow hell bound Jew!
One of the (many) insane things is that the evangelical Christians think that there needs to be a large attack on Israel to make Jesus come back. You know what would stop a large attack? Middle East peace!
The evangelicals have been working to prevent any peace in the middle east. Not that the area needs help, but evangelicals have been doing things like supporting the settlers and right wing politicians in Israel to pour gas on the fire.
All because they think them helping to trigger a big attack on Israel will make Jesus come bring them to heaven.
They want the world to end so they can laugh at all the people burning in hell from their celestial paradise. The unspeakable cruelty is a feature, not a bug.
Then you better get started! I’m rapture-ready!
Unsurprisingly, Bellingcat has “confirmed” exactly none of this and whoever made the video has no connection to the BBC. The more interesting part is who’s been spreading this bit of low-rent fraud—and why.
The claim has spread like wildfire and been boosted by at least one MAGA Republican, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA). Relatedly, Donald Trump, Jr. pushed the conspiracy theory that Hamas’ weapons were supplied by the Taliban, after being abandoned by the U.S. military when it withdrew from Afghanistan in 2021. (There is no evidence for either of these claims.)
Trust MTG and the orange kumquat’s sperm to jump on the shitpost bandwagon asap … cause they have nothing better to do with their useless lives.
Speaking of Bellingcat, they have a recent piece about the rampant spread of misinformation about the current conflict.
What’s hilarious is that we know that Donnie Bonespurs handed the Russians Israeli secrets. Handing those secrets to Iran would have helped Putin tremendously. The GOP shafted its best friend.
Russia’s been working with Iran for a while, buying arms to use in Ukraine. I wouldn’t be surprised if Putin shared intel with Iran which may have made it to Hamas.
Hamas was in Moscow multiple times this and last year. He could give it to them directly.
Russia also has (or should I perhaps say had given recent events) quite cordial relations with Israel. For example, Russia bought Israeli drones and used them in Ukraine. Also still have visa free travel and there was even talk of a customs union IRC. Israel was also hesitant to sell weapons to Ukraine, because they didn’t want to annoy Russia.
Russia’s been playing both sides for years now. I think the problem is that they need Iran more than Israel right now, so Putin can’t even manage to openly condemn Hamas.
Of course, this whole thing helps distract the US from Ukraine and possibly diverts weapons/munitions. That’s good for Russia.
But it also damages relations with Israel, which IRC is also a large importer of Russian oil. That’s bad for Russia.
It possibly undermines the nascent treaty between Israel and Saudi Arabia. That’s good for Russia.
But China helped broker a deal between Saudi Arabia and Iran, and this threatens to undermine that deal and embarrass Xi. That’s bad for Russia.
But uncertainty and the scuttling of a deal between SA and the US, will raise oil prices. That’s good for Russia.
But if Iran feels that a war with Israel is increasingly likely, they’ll be forced to send less weaponry/drones to Russia. When this is done, and given Israel has clearly decided to stop pretending to give a fuck that’s likely to sooner rather than later, they will be annoyed by Russia’s stance and more likely to send more stuff to Ukraine. That’s bad for Russia.
Etc. etc. etc.
TLDR clusterfuck. I wouldn’t be surprised that you’re right and that Russia helped Iran. They do seem to like shooting themselves in the foot and taking stupid gambles.
I’m not sure that Russia had a hand in this attack. Even if they didn’t, though, I’m sure they’re working overtime with their disinformation network and “friends” in the Republican party to spread the narrative that the US needs to immediately stop all support for Ukraine and send everything to help Israel.
The key to understanding it is they’re pro-war, and in Ukraine pro-war means supporting the Russian invasion.
NCD is pro-war. These guys are just Nazis
Look at where all the peace-mongering has lead us. Maybe we should give war a chance?
The secret ingredient is that they love bombing brown people.
The average Palestinian is a brown person, so they want to airstrike the shit out of them.
The average Russians is a white person, so they don’t want to help Ukraine.
Hell, some of the GOP’s leading presidential candidates at this point are openly and seriously discussing bombing Mexico.
Ironically, they’re undecided if they love Jews, but they can put that on the shelf in service of bombing the people they don’t like or care to try to understand.
As a Jew, the full blown MAGA folks, the evangelicals, and especially the white supremacists don’t like us.
The MAGA folks see us as a sinister conspiracy behind everything. Soros and globalists are both code words meaning “Jews.” They know that saying “let’s kill all Jews” wouldn’t fly just yet, though, so they play nice and try to get our vote by saying “we support Israel” (even while they promote policies that would hurt Jews in America).
The evangelicals hate us because we won’t convert to Christianity. However, they think Jews running Israel is a precondition to Jesus coming back and throwing all Jews into hell so they’ll “support Israel.” Of course, the second precondition is Israel suffering a large attack. Peace in the Middle East would hurt those chances so evangelicals do things to disrupt peace talks like support settlers and far right politicians in Israel. At home, the evangelicals would pass a law saying “all Jews must convert to Christianity” if they thought they could get it through.
As for the white supremacists, they don’t see Jews as being white. The fact that many of us have white skin is seen as a trick of sorts. They really don’t like how they can’t tell if a Jew is walking down the street the same way they can tell that a black man walking down the street is black. They absolutely want to kill all of us. Some of them have tried. At best, they would ship us all off to Israel despite the fact that most American Jews’ don’t have a major connection to Israel.
The evangelicals hate us because we won’t convert to Christianity.
Also, because your ancestors allegedly killed their demigod some 2000 years ago. Really, anything to make themselves feel like they are the “chosen ones.”
But yeah, the Conservative (big C) lore is tenuous at best and an utter nonsensical amalgamation at worst—actively harmful, regardless. Hope you’re staying safe.
Any time someone writes the word “globalist” they are referencing conspiracy theories about Jews secretly running the world, whether they know that or not.
Which is disappointing, because the real, broad daylight globalists have plenty of things to criticize them for without making it a Jewish conspiracy.
Strong disagree. Global trade is good for everyone.
Yeah, pretty much.
Yet Palestinians are just as tan as Israelis.
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Well of course. Just look at /r/conservative, they’re all fired up cheering on genocide and using genocidal and dehumanizing language. The thought of killing massive amounts of people they don’t like is what seems to get them up in the morning.
The thought of killing massive amounts of people they don’t like is what seems to get them up in the morning.
It’s also what gets them out of bed.
Well the whole party is islamaphobic so it makes sense they want to fund anyone fighting against Muslims.
It’s probably worse than that.
Evangelicals are just… Aching for a war over Israel, because they think that will bring about the biblical end times.
I wish it would already. Post rapture, without the Christians, will be paradise.
As if any of the"Christians" in America would be raptured
I think it would become more of a power vacuum than anything else
There is also a huge anti-Semitic group though
No worries, brutal action against Gaza will also result in dead Jews. So that works out fine for them.
So from their perspective, this is perfect. Attacking Gazan civilians only feeds the cycle of violence.
Conservatives do not have opinions. They believe only what their programmers tell them to believe and nothing more.
When a conservative shares their “opinion”, it should be dismissed and disregarded without consideration. It is valueless and often harmful.
Not every conservative talking point is bad. The Moderates views on fiscal responsibility is wise. Now of course they are hypocrites and only say that when Democrats are in power, but ensuring tax payer money is spent efficiently and wisely is a good position to have.
So I wouldn’t dismiss them outright, but on certain issues I would listen less.
They are lying about fiscal responsibility. Their severe increases in debt and outrageous tax cuts only for the richest are proof of that.
Conservatives are incapable of honesty.
When have Republicans ever been good for efficiently using taxes? They generally take stuff away from us, put more of it where we don’t need it, and refuse to tax their buyers.
Moderates views on fiscal responsibility
Lmao
The Tea Party targeted them so most don’t exist anymore.
Be good with money is not a political opinion. That’s just basic common sense. It’s a shitty Republican talking point when they say that. It was Reagan that blew up the national debt. Democrats before always kept a reasonable budget while paying down debt. The whole point is that the wealthy didn’t want to pay for social safety nets and made up an issue out of nowhere to lower taxes.
The way you’re phrasing this makes it seem like you think the left’s policies on fiscal responsibility are “spend taxpayer money inefficiently and unwisely”. That statement is an empty platitude unless “Moderates” and the right actually take some kind of action to back it up or even present a plan that reflects a position of fiscal responsibility.
They might have some general points that are decent, but their implementation of those points is horrid at best.
For example, fiscal responsibility. Good general concept. After all, spending $100 when you only have $10 isn’t sustainable. However, the right still tries to spend a huge amount on the military and then gives big tax breaks to the rich under the theory that the rich will eventually let some middle class/poor people have money. Trickle Down Theory has been disproven many times and yet the right keeps going back to it.
To give another one: We need to fix the situation at our southern border. Yes, I agree. Something needs to be done and… Oh, wait. They want to deploy buzzsaw blades, shoot immigrants on sight, and build a giant, expensive wall that won’t do anything but drain money.
You want to really address the issue at the southern border? Expand and reform the immigrant court system.
had a good piece about the problems there. If you fix the immigration courts, we could quickly sort through the incoming immigrants, help settle people who qualify for asylum and kick out anyone who shouldn’t be here. But that would result in more immigrants staying here (which we definitely could handle) and Republicans wouldn’t like that because “more brown people!”
For me the simplest example is teen pregnancy. They say they want to reduce it, but they don’t support contraceptives or sex ed. Just abstinence. Which doesn’t work.
Wise my ass.
The “moderate” republicans are only fiscal hawks with a democrat president. When they control everything, it’s tax cuts for the rich all the way down- and those Trump era 1%-er tax cuts are a) the largest expansion of us debt and b) one of the driving causes of inequality in the US.
Literally everything they do fucks over the vast majority of Americans- their constituency included- for the. Benefit of the oligarchs whose dicks they suck off.
but ensuring tax payer money is spent efficiently and wisely is a good position to have.
The modern Republican party believes in fiscal responsibility in the same way that the National Socialist party believes in socialism.
Cutting taxes is not “fiscal responsibility,” debt does not work the way they think it does, countries are not businesses, and Republicans have always been wrong on the economy.
People who are “fiscally conservative” are as ill-informed as communists.
Cutting ineffective taxes certainly is a smart fiscal move. Let’s take an example where fiscal responsibility will lead to a better outcome, Healthcare.
We all know the Healthcare industry is full of bloated expenses that function to reward insurance agencies. If we put in place a Universal Healthcare system it must be fiscally responsible to lower costs, end insurance companies from gaming the system, and provide the level of funding to support it while providing taxpayers with a stellar return on investment. If done correctly all Americans would see a vast reduction in Healthcare costs, better access to medical care, and the nation prospers for generations to come.
Yeah. See. Republicans don’t want to do that. So gg.
This would require raising taxes, and is absolutely a thing we should do, as the majority of Americans would take home around 10-13% more income, in addition to savings at point-of-sale. I’ve done the math using UK tax rates. Companies would also save money, as health insurance costs rise faster than wages.
Most people don’t realize this, because they don’t understand how much their health insurance costs their employer. This is not about efficiency, but rather addressing externalities and perverse incentives in the health care market as it stands.
Regardless, this is neither here nor there - non-pigouvian taxes in the US are generally extremely efficient and produce far more in real value than they cost in tax dollars.
Why Democrats aren’t blasting these two points out over every social media channel, always, is an institutional failure, imo.
Democrats are unable to sell anything. They are too intelligent to understand how to sell a good idea to someone below their education level.
Try selling your Healthcare ideas to your neighbors four year old. That is why Democrats can’t sell, they operate at too high of a level.
Weak, irrelevant take.
“fiscal responsibility” to conservatives means cutting social programs, education, and making it more difficult for women and minorities to access healthcare, while pouring trillions into the military industrial complex and awarding contracts to the companies they own shares in.
Now that Joe Biden has expressed support for Israel, MAGATs will probably revert to isolationism and bitching about Mexico. I’ve already seen it in some threads on a conservative forum where I lurk. Just a bunch of “waaah muh tax dollars”.
And deny themselves all that sweet AIPAC lobby money? Not happening.
To add to the other sentiments ITT:
The ultra-orthodox religious GOP wing, aka Nationalist Christians (short: Nat-C) actually believes that the second coming of Christ / Armageddon / Rapture will start in or around Israel. They hope for the end of the world, by nuclear fire.Yes, of the evangelical contingents, they can roughly be split into three groups: (1) those who support Israel because of their view of the end times and like Jews but want them to become Christian, (2) those who really don’t like jews but support Israel because of their view that the end times require a massive war in the middle east, and (3) those who wish they were Jews and pretend to be Jews while actually being proselytic cosplaying Christians that like to eat latkes.
To be fair nuclear war would probably spell the end of capitalism so there’s that silver lining. With enough nukes you can burn away the racism and superstitions of the old world, erase the borders confining us, and liberate mankind from oppressive hierarchies. Not very environmentally friendly though. Maybe there is a better way?
Well, one kills brown people…
You do know Israelis and Palestinians look the same, right. The only actual difference the two sides have is one follow Mohammed’s version of Christian / Abrahamic religion and the other follows the old Abrahamic religion. Basically the same difference between Christianity and Judaism. They have more in common than they have different, but each side has been groomed to hate the other. That is why religious wars are so fucking stupid. Your killing women and child over nothing. Your fighting because you have been trying to suppress the other.
They are the same people and the hardliners from both sides are to blame. Arrest them all and sign a peace treaty allowing for everyone to worship however they want, free from hate and violence.
I get these are heated times, but my comment was more along the lines of "Republicans support the Israelis because Palestinians will die (brown people), and do not support Ukraine because Russians will die (white people).
You’re not wrong, but it isn’t black and white either.
Yes, but the evangelicals need Israel run by Jews because otherwise Jesus won’t return. After Jesus comes back, they think Jesus will toss all Jews into hell. Therefore, they are willing to delay their bigotry when it comes to Israel.
They don’t have a similar need for Palestinians (or others of Arab descent) so the right is fine with killing all those brown people.
You do know Israelis and Palestinians look the same, right
We know that, but the repubitards don’t.
Only one group in the Israel/Palestine conflict is fighting a religious war, and it’s Hamas. Hamas seized power specifically to fight a religious war, because they thought the existing Palestinian government was too secular (and then blamed that secularism on a worldwide Jewish conspiracy).
This is all in Hamas’s charter, if you don’t believe me.
Israeli Arabs have full citizenship and freedom of religion
Nobody posting here seems to care about the truth. They’d rather believe Israel is bad and Palestine is good, rather than take any time at all to learn the actual history and nuance of the situation. I doubt anyone here understands that the reason 20% of the Israeli citizenry are Arab is because their ancestors ignored Arab League propaganda, didn’t flee, and didn’t have their land stolen. Israel certainly needs to have a constitutional government that protects Arab Israelis from the vagaries of the volatile political process, and be as firm about seeking peace as they are about responding to terror attacks, but the ahistorical Palestinian propaganda successes amongst so-called liberals is disheartening. Neither side has clean hands, but the Palestinians are as much victims of their own leadership as any actions of Israel. EDIT: I recently heard a BBC World Service reporter talk about “Israeli Palestinians” and I was very surprised, as most of the Israeli Arabs I know absolutely DO NOT identify as Palestinians unless they’re also Muslim. Ethnically Christian Arab Israelis tend to have a much more complex view of the Palestinian situation, and absolutely zero interest in being part of a Palestinian state because they know they’d be a often-persecuted minority.
these people are clowns
Of course they do. Diverting military funds and power to Israel instead of Ukraine helps Russia.
They are antiwar when it suits them.
Well let’s hope this can be used to help Ukraine in their war against Russia and leads to peace in the Middle East.
it’s back to "if you’re against us you’re with the terrorists " and “anti war people are worse than the devil” times everyone
Not the point but the thumbnail looks like someone covered their weird shaped penis with Cheeto dust
It’s Trump’s penis lol. Enlarged so we can see it of course.
