https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/01/us/politics/trump-liz-cheney-treason-jail.html

Mr. Trump has repeatedly called for the imprisonment of his political opponents, often singling out members of the Jan. 6 committee. But the two posts that Mr. Trump amplified on Sunday particularly stand out.

One proposed jailing an extensive list of high-ranking officials, including Mr. Trump’s former vice president, the top Republican in the Senate and the current president and vice president. The other invoked the dictatorial imagery of a televised military tribunal, which would strip Ms. Cheney of her right to due process similar to the military courts used to prosecute terror suspects at Guantánamo Bay

  • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
    4·
    1 day ago

    Good thing the supreme court didn’t just give the president the power to do whatever they want recently. This would be an actually actionable threat otherwise.

  • HamManBad [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    39·
    2 days ago

    Too bad leftist organizers of any stripe are also definitely on his list of people to prosecute, otherwise I’d actually be looking forward to this

  • emizeko [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    261·
    2 days ago

    The other invoked the dictatorial imagery of a televised military tribunal, which would strip Ms. Cheney of her right to due process similar to the military courts used to prosecute terror suspects at Guantánamo Bay

    “oh no, a wealthy white woman might experience the violence we use on the untermensch!”

  • D61 [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    25·
    2 days ago

    I know that, rationally, this is bad and I shouldn’t ever want to see it attempted… but now that he’s said it… I kinda wonder what would happen if Trump wins.

    Will he just “forget” about it as soon as the inauguration happens?

    Will it go the route of the overturning of the Affordable Care Act? Remember that? For the first two years of Trumps presidency, it seemed like there were monthly votes to overturn the ACA but every time there’d be some technicality or just straight up not being able to get enough conservative votes to make it happen. Then one day, the votes stopped, the bills stopped being put to vote, and all conservative commentators just stopped talking about it like it was not a campaign promise that had been failing for two years straight.

    Will it actually happen? Will he actively persecute Republicans who spoke out against him? Clinton, Biden, Obama, Pelosi?

    Will the Supreme Court step in to stop it? Will he then persecute the Supreme Court Justices (fuck that’d kinda be amazing)? i really want to have a crystal ball that can show me the possibilities in detail without having to actually live through them.

    • Adkml [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      33·
      2 days ago

      Will he just “forget” about it as soon as the inauguration happens?

      I’m going to say yes based on the fact that’s exactly what happened last time.and he even explained that to his supporters.

      They started chanting lock her up after he was elected and he waved them off and said “yea that was great and all during the campaign but I’m actually president now relax”

      • readmore [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        8·
        2 days ago

        Do you think this changed once he got charged and had to go to court? He’s incredibly petty and I can sorta see him wanting to do the same thing to others as revenge.

      • D61 [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
        13·
        2 days ago

        There’s a part of me that thinks there’s a chance that things will be different (not a high chance, just higher than with Hillary).

        I remember there being specific campaign slogans about Hillary but it seemed like all of the focus was on her specifically.

        I find myself wondering if the shotgun approach of talking about going after EVERYBODY will require somebody to actually be drug into a courtroom. (Though with Trump starting his presidency from day one as a lame duck… I guess it won’t really matter.)

        • Adkml [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          9·
          2 days ago

          I remember there being specific campaign slogans about Hillary but it seemed like all of the focus was on her specifically.

          They chanted drain the swamp constantly.

          • D61 [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
            6·
            2 days ago

            True but talking about doing something" about general corruption and graft in government has always been a thing. Its like “the deep state”, it doesn’t typically specify any specific individual just … blobs of bureaucracy.

            • Adkml [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
              7·
              2 days ago

              Right it’s been a thing forever to talk about it and not do it that’s why what he’s doing isn’t anything new or unique.

              Dems say they’re going to do good things if elected, republicans say they’ll punish the people they hate.

              They’re both full of shit. Republicans will crank up the cruelty against vulnerable people but they have class co science, they aren’t going after each other.

  • CascadeOfLight [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    31·
    2 days ago

    Love to have a court ‘reserved for enemy combatants and war criminals’, implicitly suggesting those two things are on the same level of illegality.

      • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        171·
        2 days ago

        I really liked it, I thought it was really funny. I dont think I’d describe it as lib as fuck at all, could be biased because I thought it was funny, but its not like red scarey at all. Its not pro Stalin, but its not anti Communist.

        • CascadeOfLight [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          38·
          2 days ago

          Man, did we watch the same movie? The very opening sequence is based on an apocryphal tale, that Stalin had been listening to a radio broadcast of an orchestra one night, called up the broadcast studio after it was finished to congratulate them on how good it was and then, in a fit of Soviet patriotism, the orchestra chose to play the whole show again in order to record it and send the record to Stalin - a story that is almost certainly made up, but the point of which is to show how much the Soviet people loved Stalin.

          Meanwhile in the film, Stalin calls up to gruffly demand a recording of the show to be handed to him by the morning, so the exhausted orchestra has to repeat the performance in a new fit of terror for their lives at the implication their heartless tyrant will have them killed if they don’t. Now, aside from the film’s obvious protrayal of itself as a comedy/satire, it still claims to essentially represent the sequence of events surrounding the succession of Stalin by Khrushchev, so anti-communism-primed lib audiences would probably take this to be an exaggerated depiction of something that actually happened rather than a made-up story with the point of it completely inverted.

          And that’s just the opening few minutes. The entire rest of the film has this atmosphere that, at any moment, anyone could just be arrested by the secret police or summarily executed as part of someone’s play for power, as if that’s how it really was in the USSR. I mean, there’s a scene after Stalin’s death where for no apparent reason the whole staff of his dacha is just getting executed in the background by soldiers, who then stand there and wait to be executed by other soldiers! If it didn’t market itself as a comedy it would just be a very extreme anticommunist screed.

          I’m not saying the film wasn’t funny or that it isn’t worth watching, but the writer is obviously a liberal with the fundamental anticommunist brainworms that comes with. It’s really a comedy about bureaucratic dysfunction, just like many of the writer’s other works like The Thick Of It, but he still chose to set it in the USSR and indulge in all these anticommunist tropes, presenting them in a way the audience isn’t really sure if it’s an exaggeration or something that really happened. It’s the very definition of lib as fuck.