It was such a perfect ending to the series. Until it wasn’t.

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    I liked Frieza better. Partly because the whole Namek arc was this cool cat and mouse race to find the dragon balls while ducking him. Trying to trust former baddie Vegeta. Then it being Piccolo’s home coming. Finally the face off with the strongest being in the universe. The ending of Goku achieving the legendary super saiyan to Vegeta’s shock, bittersweet for him because it wasn’t him doing it but he got to see Frieza eat shit. Then finally a cliff hanger if Goku survives Namek explodin’ or not.

    The series felt very [insert universe strongest baddie here] after Frieza. Okay maybe a pass for the androids because it was cool to see Future Trunks but I didn’t like Cell and I really stopped paying attention during Buu.

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      Cell Saga was cool because even the lower power fighters made some contributions. From Buu Saga forward it’s just the story of super saiyans. Except Tien, who made an attempt at Buu cause he’s a wild man.

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      The Frieza saga was the last real story arc in the series. It had a coherent premise for the fighting and powering up and whatnot, along with fun character development and stakes that felt relevant to said characters. Everything after felt like the anime adaptation of a fighting game.

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    I think it would’ve been fine to continue if they had actually committed to handing off the protagonist stick to Gohan. Let people actually die so there can be permanent consequences at any point in the future of the story, keep things fresh, focus on different kinds of stories, etc. As long as it’s the Goku and Vegeta show they’re going to be getting up to the same shit, but Gohan could’ve moved the story in a genuinely new direction and let it evolve.

    As it is, though, it’s basically just marvel-tier slop. Which is fine I guess. I do like the slop. I see the big meat man go rawr and shake the universe and i go pog

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      This is where I’m at, because you know Dragon Ball has always been Dragon Ball. That doesn’t mean it can’t or shouldn’t be better, but people genuinely enjoyed the TOP arc.

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    Agreed. The theme of fatherhood is so strong in that saga, which is the perfect theme for ending your series with a handoff to the protagonist’s son. Buu Saga went on too long, DB Super honestly feels like Dragon Ball’s “Zombie Simpsons” era - and now they’re gonna tack even more into the universe because brrrrrrrrrrrr

    Just let it die damn.

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        Super saiyan god vs Beerus - the energy of the fight is enough to destroy the multiverse

        Two super saiyan god super saiyans (yes that’s what the blue haired form is called lmao) - no problems mate why do you ask

        Anyway the show rocks, peak kino

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        I still don’t under why they couldn’t just call Super Saiyan God (the red form) just Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue (or whatever the fuck the blue form is called) Super Saiyan God, like??? Super Saiyan God literally looks like base form Goku but with red hair and Super Saiyan Blue looks like SSJ Goku but with blue hair

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        I’ve never bothered to see anything past the original manga but I’ve always loved the design of SSJ4 because it ties everything back to the original Journey to the West Monkey King inspiration.

        In the new stuff they just give Goku red, blue and grey hair dean-frown

        spoiler

        Also holy Christ does Super look godawful. Did all the animators on it have two broken wrists

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      I saw a little bit of Super in rehab, one of the guys was a fan of the show and I was like yeesh, it was so weird because the fights had really fast edits that made it feel like youtube clips spliced together. And the story behind it was yet another big ol’ dumb tournament in the after life.

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    The Great Saiyaman Arc and parts of the World Tournament Arc right afterwards are actually the highlight of the series to me (subs, if that matters). They’re just so silly and low stakes and don’t spend hours fighting the same fight. Like, I was actually laughing at Goten and Trunks in a trench coat.

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    Mostly agree, I like Buu well enough but the saga dragged on terribly. Super has been 90% miss for me, though I thoroughly enjoyed the two most recent movies. Piccolo was always my favorite character and anything that makes him relevant again gets my uncritical support. DB Super Hero even follows up on a bit of that Cell saga Gohan focus that got abandoned with Buu.

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    but I liked Gohan’s high school arc. Toriyama should’ve committed to the super sentai bit.

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      Nah, this really isn’t that. This is a common opinion even among fans of the show and the parts of the show which came after the point being referenced. The Cell arc was really written as a finale, or at the very least as a major shift to the status quo, and all that was undone in the next arc where it became very apparent how shamelessly they were going to keep milking this universe.

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      Super isn’t a remake of anything, it’s a direct continuation of the story after Z and has basically no similarities to GT at all. Except for arguably being not very good.

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    Just watch DBZ Abridged and then watch Battle of Gods and Resurrection F, then ignore everything else.

    Actually the movie fan edit of the future trunks saga was ok, but yeah super is deeply mid. Actually the original cut of DBZ is kinda mid too, Kai fixes some of it but it’s still way too fucking long. Abridged is basically the canon DBZ experience IMO.