That’s right, we’re the good ones here. Communists come to power in China and the people there experience probably the greatest leap in living standards for the greatest number of people in human history. The accomplishments of the USSR probably aren’t too far behind. Think about how badly the people of Cuba would be suffering - the blockade hurts of course but even with it, without the revolution most Cubans would be living in abject poverty. Think about all those parents who don’t have to tell a starving child there’s no food to eat today. Or the person with a painful ailment that actually gets cured. Or someone who doesn’t have to spend their lives living in near-slavery conditions. Women - half the population! - had objectively way more rights under communist. And right now, places like Vietnam and Cuba are beginning to lead the way regarding LGBTQ rights while the west is backtracking. All because of communism.
Yep, we did that. The capitalist have to spread lies about how “100 million killed” and “gommunism no food” because the reality is we fucking rock at making people’s lives better. We know that’s all just propaganda. Whatever. Hold your head up high today because you’re someone who cares about making the world a better place AND you happen to know the solution, too.
I guess this sort of thing matters to me because I think a lot about my evangelical Christian upbringing. Those people are convinced that they are the salt and light of the earth. It doesn’t matter that they don’t do shit for people or even care about the suffering others. They don’t. They’re just 100% convinced their beliefs make them the greatest most moral people on earth. They think they can offer people a “get out of hell free” card and that makes them good. They are also convinced communism is pure evil. That communists are pawn the devil. Seriously growing up in the late 80s I heard evangelicals shit talk communists so much. But at the end of the day… scoreboard. We make peoples lives better and you make them worse.
So be proud of yourself, you’re someone who gives a shit and that’s pretty rare in this world.
(And just to head off comments about stolen valor… yeah I know I personally did not help the people of China live better lives. I’m just trying to be inspirational here. We are part of something that did that, and I think there is some pride you can take in that).
damn straight
my evangelical Christian upbringing
fundies talk about China like there is an ongoing Christian Holocaust/underground railroad thing going on but there’s literally 40 million of them and they have megachurches and everything!
The fact that China runs its own internal Catholic church that isn’t allowed to take money from the Vatican is extremely funny to me. They even appoint their own priests and cardinals.
China taking a definitive stance on the issue of investiture.
it makes sense to me, since almost 100% of underground churches in China you hear about in the US are thinly veiled anti-communist infiltration organizations pretending like the Chinese government is freely distributing a rats ass about your religious beliefs.
And westoids are obtusely paranoid about random things being secretly Chinese. There are no good or bad foreign infiltration, only good or bad teams.
there isn’t mass prosecution of christians in China, but there should be :very-smart:
Russia: cyclical famines every decade fogge literally all of history
Communists come to power and theres literally one more famine and none ever again and they still don’t shut the fuck up about it
China: literally the same thing happens
And yet the narrative is that the communists are the ones who fucked up the food supply. No mother fucker, the communists are the ones who finally fucking fixed it!
The Soviets elevated their land from being one of the worst place to live on Earth into an industrial powerhouse with standard of living reaching the level of those in the western empires in just about 2 decades in what those western states took 100 years to achieve, all without having to commit brutal wealth extraction of the global south that goes even farther back than the industrial revolution.
Communists are just build different.
They also did it while sending their kids to school and giving their workers some of the most comprehensive benefits of any developed country in history. I wonder what the kids were doing and what workers’ rights were like when England was building its own productive forces?
the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry
