You can repeat “US imperialism bad” as much as you want but learning the play by play is just absolutely mind blowing. Its always so much worse than you could initially imagine.

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    Americans have such an easygoing ignorance of the absolutely massive scale of anti-communist massacres that were going on in their zone of military occupation (me included prior to listening to S3). That’s a critical piece of missing information that confuses their understanding of the motivations behind the invasion of the southern occupation zone.

    What’s less forgivable is the weird fetishization about the inviobility lines on a map. To the point of being willing to grind an entire people into dust to ensure that the line is respected.

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      weird fetishization about the inviobility lines on a map.

      The way people genuinely believe that “War” is something that only happens if you drive a tank across a survey line is infuriating. Just an absolute failure to even consider the possibility of realpolitik, of unconventional warfare, economic warfare. Like bruh if someone is pointing a nuclear gun at your head you do not have to wait for him to pull the trigger before you’re allowed to respond.

      Doubly so because so many people will excuse or outright endorse America’s various campaigns of mass murder and desolation.

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        One of the most effective American propaganda campaigns have been to convince Americans and Europeans that “war” is very specifically when you drive tanks across lines on a map.

        Things that are definitely not war include:

        • Economic blockades
        • Airstrikes against life sustaining infrastructure
        • Airstrikes against civillians
        • Actual boots on the ground in the form of special forces
        • Actual full scale invasions of countries, as long as you sign the form that says “this is not a war”
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          “Police action” is the 20th century’s “Lethal aid”

          You know it’s funny that libs want to sue gun companies for firearms murders, but don’t seem to have the same energy for acknowledging that we’re responsible for arming and training the Ukrainian armed forces.