• dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de
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    Don’t know about email, but windows 8 would create dynamic tiles out of pictures on your computer and pin them in the start menu.

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      It was a vital teaching lesson. It taught me not to put porn in My Documents. I think the times were generated by files there.

      Because the next version of Windows started strongly recommending all My Documents files get moved to One Drive.

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        Ah yes, the good old onedrive documents takeover. I had some VMs in my documents folder on my work laptop, then onedrive installed itself and took over my documents folder. It tried to “sync” my files and ran into an error because I use those VMs and it isn’t smart enough to retry after the file has been closed.

        So I moved the file in question, rebooted because that’s the only thing that reliably works in windows and onedrive seemed to run again. I gave it a whole day with gigabit LAN for 60GB of files and it didn’t manage to do it, so I tried to move all the VM stuff away.

        But guess fucking what? Those files aren’t on my PC anymore, they’re just links to the cloud now and when I try to copy them to somewhere else, it reliably errors out after about 2 minutes of doing nothing. The tray icon says it’s doing something, but it doesn’t list any files it’s working on and task Manager shows it isn’t working on any files.

        Needless to say that the VM that’s been “synced” to the cloud doesn’t boot now.

        I hate Microsoft with a passion.

        Update: Onedrive says it filled the entire available space (a whole TB), but the VMs were just 200GB. So I clicked the “free storage” link it showed, which lead to a sharepoint website where I found out that onedrive keeps a version history (which isn’t indicated in any way in the desktop application) and counts size without deduplication, so I caused my company about 50€/month of cost without knowing.

        And the best part? When I try to delete old versions, it just says “Sorry, that didn’t work”.

        Not sure if I should laugh or cry.

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          To this day I have no idea how OneDrive even works. Like, it will prompt you to sync your desktop and documents folders when you install it, but what happens if I do that also on a second PC?

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            It will literally copy everything in the OneDrive folder between computers. Including desktop icons for programs that aren’t installed on the other computer. It’s a shit show. Imagine setting up a new laptop and it’s immediately flooded with desktop icons for programs you don’t have yet.

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            Judging from my experience with onedrive, it’ll probably screw up so hard you’ll have to reinstall windows twice.

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            I’m fine, I already made the decision to quit and am now looking for a company that doesn’t blindly trust microsoft with anything they do.

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      Ya during video calls at my work it’s always the entire room waiting for the Linux users to troubleshoot their sound and video. Usually they give up and join the call from their iPhone

      Windows for workstations and Linux for servers imo.

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        As a former helldesk minion I can assure you that linux users are not even on my radar of people that waste everyone’s time with troubleshooting simple things.

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          Yeah, mac-tards are the worst. “I want this to do all the exact same things as windows but I refuse to use windows”

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            Most of my mac users were fine, the people i had a problem with didn’t matter what OS they used, it was the ones that complain a thing isn’t working, you ask for confirmation that the thing is plugged in, they say yes it is plugged in, then you physically move to the workstation to find that it is not plugged in. If you have a legit problem, even if you caused it we’re still cool. If you waste my time by lieing to me we are no longer cool.

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          I used to do desktop support and I never helped the Linux users either.

          Most of them only use it because they think they are cool or something. Usually break the install every 3 days.

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        For development Unix-like OSes are far superior to Windows. Macs mostly work OOTB but are far too expensive if you need anything more than the base config. As for me, never had issues with my mic and webcam under Ubuntu and even Arch, pipewire Just Works in my experience.

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          You can get Linux subsystem for Windows in a single click, problem solved

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              I am a Linux admin right now who does everything using Windows 11 and fedora subsystem

              Linux as a workstation is trash that people only use because they think they are cool

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                I am not a techy person, not a programmer, nada, and linux (particularly fedora) has always worked with little to no issue for me.

                The hardest thing I really ever have to do is enable the rpm fusion repos on a fresh install, and the only problem I consistently encounter is discord trying to take control of, and subsequently destroy, my audio when using bluetooth headphones.

                I just use it because it is an easier, privacy & user respecting system.

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                I guess you only use ssh, docker or k8s? For serious software development, integration between the windows host and the Linux VM is far from seamless, or was last time I checked. Anyway, when all the software you use is unix-first, why bother jumping through hoops to make it run under an inferior OS?

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                Linux let’s you have low level control over your hardware, windows blocks that.

                Running linux under windows offers nothing beyond familiarity of linux tools, which obviously are better suited to a linux environment.

                If you prefer windows it has its own closed ecosystem, but at this point its really just preference x monopoly

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                  Linux under Windows is in a separate container lol. You have no idea what you are talking about

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          Tried running fedora for a while and still run into problems

          I’m a sysadmin for 10 years and I have no patience for my own workstation having issues anymore

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            can relate to having no patience for my workstation having issues, that’s why i use linux. It does exactly what i tell it to.

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            What kind of software under windows do you use to facilitate the network and security in the firm you work for?

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              None, I’m behind ACLs and an f5 firewall on separate vlan

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        I just use qpwgraph so if audio isn’t playing, either it isn’t registering (source apps fault, doesn’t happen often though) or it’s going to the wrong place and I can quickly switch it around. Bonus points for being able to route music through your microphone to play it for teammates

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      I did that. Unironically, I just said fuck it, I’ll give it a shot.

      And… it just works. Like updates kinda fuck up a bit after not using it for a bit (I didn’t have time to use my desktop lately), but everything works great.

      I’m sure I could get mostly the same experience with Arch, but it’s just fun to flag off entire parts of software from even compiling. Also OpenRC is great.

      I can stream Steam games, which works much better on Gentoo than Ubuntu with the same hardware.

      Gentoo is not a meme, the compiles on modern CPUs are fast, software is wonderfully packaged, and I will not use anything else on my desktop ever.

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        I know, my dad used gentoo in his glory days on pentium machines probably spending days compiling Firefox. Gentoo is way less of a meme now than what it was then. It’s actually a good distro if you want control.