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  • anarcho_blinkenist [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    yeah idk what OP means about settlers this seems to have very little to do with settler-colonialism this is basic-becky social chauvinism a la the collapse of the second international and communist split due to the lack of will to stop WWI. These guys are openly (embarrassingly) direct descendants and inheritors of that exact legacy of the failure of the second international. These pro-war social chauvinist imperial unionists were being railed against by Lenin in Europe for supporting their nations imperialist war machine for the opportunist job security and benefits provided compared to other labor (or fighting at the front), at the expense of the international proletariat, by acting as collaborators of war. It’s more a symptom of the dynamics of basic old-style imperialism than an internal settler-colonial relationship. Every European labor and communist parties had splits over this in the mid-late 1910s.

    Social chauvinism like this occurs even without or in spite of any settler-colonial relationships, because it’s a function of basic externalized imperialism not of an internal settler-colonialism, as was demonstrated historically by this occurring even in non-settler-colonies in 1900s Europe. There are reasons that unions are not sufficient for revolutionary societal change and are not inherently progressive even in non-settler-colonies; and a reason too that the ILA has a huge portion of its rank and file and chapter leadership that are black proles also still backing this to the hilt, because they benefit from imperial spoils the same in the context of the job and union itself; as as ‘essential-for-empire workers,’ they are inherently ‘overvalued’ (in the sense of when compared to the exchange value of labor-power for other workers, in the value they generate and their importance in ‘keeping the machine’ of imperialism running and all the downstream externalized contradictions from coming back to the mainland).

    The way this is connected to settler colonialism is only distantly or indirectly, in that the expanse of empire, by being rooted in the initial primitive accumulation through settler colonialism, means the US empire could reach farther and out-compete other empires previously, meaning larger returns for a labor-aristocratic imperial-collaboration can expand to more people than for a poorer imperialist nation, and remain stably such due to the hegemonic power of global empire that these unionists facilitate; which completely obscures the settler-colonial relationship for these workers by dulling the contradiction to invisibility, by those contradictions being exported (through the imperialism, war, that they facilitate).

    This shit would happen with or without settler-colonialism in an imperialist nation because it always did. And for these workers in particular the settler-colonial dynamic between them only might become relevant again in the sense OP is alluding to if those externalized imperial contradictions were reimported and the internal contradictions sharpened by those spoils of empire they all collaborate for shrinking to a smaller amount than could serve to buy all of them off like it currently does; and a struggle for “who got to remain in the empire’s war machine” began between them. There are implicit social dynamics in a settler-colonial context like this but those have nothing to do with the existence of social chauvinism and unions supporting imperialism itself.

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      yeah idk what OP means about settlers this seems to have very little to do with settler-colonialism

      The book settlers talked at lenght how the European settlers in America lacked proletarian characteristics and often compromised with the bourgeoise to help them repress non-white nations.

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      I agree, tho as others are pointing out, the social relation of settlerism is fundamental to this phenomenon in the US. No surprise that the big union at the end of the american frontier is like this consistently. I wouldn’t say it is indirectly connected to settler colonialism, just that like you said at the end, there is more at play here.

      As some aholes on twitter are happily pointing out, a lot of the ILA members are African American. Not only does the gains of settlerism also impact them even as they are mistreated, but the social chauvinism inherent to this union and most craft unions would seal the deal even without that. I am essentially being a centrist on this because I think people should recognize the impact of what Sakai was talking about on this, as well as the shortcomings of unionism and that even in a third world country or among largely oppressed populations in the US, there is a material incentive beyond settlers that makes this kind of chauvinism prevalent