• JayTwo [any]@hexbear.net
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    I hate to call everything gaslighting but it fucking sucks to be called a conspiracy theorist for half a goddamn decade and then one day, all of a sudden that thing I was saying and getting shat on for is now “common knowledge” and the fact that it wasn’t treated as such until a specific point in time, gets tossed down the memory hole.

    This isn’t the first time it’s happened which is why I’m assuming everyone is going to soon claim they always knew Biden didn’t have full control of his faculties despite not being at that point just yet.

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      this is ALWAYS how the “conspiracy theorist” name-callers act

      they drag you through the mud until one day you’re proven right and then it’s “well duh idiot, everyone already knew that”

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        I wonder if he ever would have gotten anything done if he had access to chuds on the internet. Probably would have had a stroke 20 years earlier.

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      Makes me wish I had my own newspaper so I can write the headline “You were stupid then, you’ll be stupid in the future” about people not listening to reason or even believing their own eyes and ears, and then republishing that headline every few years. Perhaps open and repeated mockery will finally get through.

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    We knew in 2020. It was an open joke. His eye exploded during a debate. He had to be herded around like an old arthritic Labrador. The party and the media colluded to hide it but a cursory investigation would have yielded dozens of results, direct video feeds, of his brain and mouth out of sync.

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      His eye exploded during a debate.

      He definitely had dementia in 2020 and shouldn’t have been a candidate then. But weirdly a sub-conjunctival haemorrhage (eye spontaneously bleeding) while dramatic looking is surprisingly common and benign. I’ve known young people who got them from coughing or sneezing too hard.

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          Yes, but that’s my point. There’s a certainly lot of evidence about how frail Biden is, like videos of falls etc. That and how demented he is.

          But an eye spontaneously bleeding during a debate while looking bad is actually a mild thing. It happens when blood pressure spike suddenly (stress or even sneezing can do it). It could have happened to anyone, Trump, Bernie, Pete Buttgieg, John Delaney and is not a good indicator of overall general health.

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            I agree that it could have happened to anyone, but its importance and severity were elevated specifically because it was Biden. People saw him dying in front of them and just tacked it on as another sign of his poor health. Which is really just another reason why the DNC shouldn’t have rigged it for him, but apparently their media control was good enough to get a good chunk of the country to believe he didn’t have dementia in the first place.

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              I agree, optics wise having a conjunctival bleed when you’re trying to pretend you are not too old is bad timing (great comedic timing though). Just like saying only god could make you drop out and then getting covid19.

              I’m just saying human bodies are funny things and that your eye spontaneously filling with blood is humorously both benign and the kind of meaningless thing that can just happen.

              Had it happened to someone like Jeremy Corbyn for example, you’d get endless articles about how medically unfit he is, which would be false. (For reference this happened in September 2019 when Biden was still demented but not the shambling husk he is today).

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            Sorry man I don’t believe you. You’re saying that eyes spontaneously bleeding is something that happens to people regardless of their level of overall health?

            I just don’t believe you. How can I, without a source? Why haven’t I seen anyone’s eyes bleeding?

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      Anyone calling out his mental decline in 2020 was accused of being a Russian bot and that whole discourse was silenced outside of places like this.

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      We pointed out his insane rants about Corn Pop and leaving the record player on for your baby, and the libs told us to stop making fun of his stutter.

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    I’m sorry, he didn’t meet with his own party members regarding legislation for two and a half fucking years of his term? How the fuck was every member of that caucus not broadcasting that from the stands? I understand Biden and his advisors keeping it quiet, but if you’re looking to create an opening for more influence for yourself as a Dem how do you not take a crack at that?

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        They want to be the worst stereotype of a Soviet apparatchik soo bad but the structural pressure of capitalism forces them to be lizard people instead

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      Well, TBF that was the Biden campaign specifically fucking up. The democrats trying to get rid of him clearly knew what was going on in swing states.

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          I think you kinda answered your own question.

          If you’re using the metric of “saving democracy” or “doing what’s best for the country” then yes they’re extremely incompetent.

          But, if you’re ranking them based on how long they’ve been able to keep their grift going then they become very competent indeed.

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    For months before the debate, Biden’s advisers responded angrily to suggestions that Biden was deteriorating, telling critics in private conversations that their concerns were overblown and were playing into Republican critiques.

    They must have assumed that if he had at least a serviceable debate - they could drag his half-dead body (with its malfunctioning brain) to the convention and get the nomination.

    [Smith, the congressman from Washington,] described the strategy as, “ignore the problem, nothing to see here, and run out the clock.”

    This made me laugh…

    In a news conference closing out the summit, he referred to his vice president as “Vice President Trump.” Sullivan, the national security adviser, pressed his hand to his face. Secretary of State Antony Blinken flinched.

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    Will never forget everyone in the DNC primary dropping out at the same time and endorsing Biden

    lol democracy. Honestly it’d be so much better if they just gave up on this charade and were better about saying the quiet part out loud

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    “The congressional democrats were particularly confused because they were actually students who’d only just been calling Biden a nerd; they were no less confused when the much less incoherent Pelosi picked up the pace and also began trying to convince them to pass an infrastructure bill”