• Runcible [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    in 2024 nobody even ran against Biden.

    I feel compelled to point out that this is not true at every opportunity. People did run against Biden but the DNC refused to acknowledge their candidacies.

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      Also, how common is it to run against a sitting president in your own party? I don’t think I’ve ever even heard of that happening before this year.

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        I can’t get this answer with a search (buried behind other bullshit); I’d have to check each election, however even a quick search makes it clear that a primary challenge is not unheard of, or even very rare as far as I could tell.

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          Wow, I didn’t even know that. I thought it was basically if you’re the sitting president you’re automatically the party candidate for the next race unless you’re on your 2nd term. Looks like someone ran against Clinton in 1996 but they don’t really publicize it much when it happens I guess.

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      Not really true. Who ran against Biden? Dean Philips? Cenk Uygur? Those aren’t real candidate. Also several states did not list any alternative candidates. North Carolina was the first to close ballot registration so that only Biden appeared on the ticket. The North Carolina ticket had 2 options Biden or “no preference”. Also some states such as Florida refused to even hold a primary and declared Biden to be the de facto winner. There was no real primary. It was a farce so that now Biden can lie to people and say that 90% of Democrats want him to be the nominee.

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        How dare you forget orb mommy & brainworms?

        I don’t think an honest argument can be made about the quality/amount of ther candidates after the early announcers were instantly sidelined and ignored. At that point it is clear that the party apparatus would end your career and the safe bet is waiting a year or two for Biden to croak.

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          RFK is not running as a democrat, he’s running as third party. Cornell West and Jill Stein are also third party. I’m talking about the democratic primary election. Marianne is a meme, she only got votes because she became a member of the uncommitted campaign where uncommitted wasn’t an option. In states such as Virginia where uncommitted was not an option, the uncommitted campaign told people to vote for Marianne.

          I’m not sure why you think that you’re disagreeing with me. You agree that the party apparatus either blocked them from running or told them not to run. That means that nobody ran against Biden in the election. I’m not saying nobody wanted to run.

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            RFK ran as a democrat and ended that campaign to run as an independent & I don’t think Marianne was a serious candidate, I just object to the “Biden won the primary” / “No one opposed Biden” news headline and lemmyverse post bullshit.

            I don’t think that I disagree with you in a broad sense but people actually did run and I think those attempts being killed is a meaningful thing to mention