• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Microgrid/self sufficient backup is the future.

    Horribly inefficient relative to a large MUD connected to a durable grid and industrial scale green energy production.

    But in America, we only know how to build big when we build sloppy. So its the best alternative any individual resident has.

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      2 months ago

      Anywhere on earth, if you want backup power, you need to build it yourself.

      I don’t care how many layers of generation the municipality has, if a storm knocks them out, I can’t blame them for shutting the system down to repair it.

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        Anywhere on earth, if you want backup power, you need to build it yourself.

        Large multi-family units can leverage economies of scale to more effectively supply amenities like AC, data, and backup power. Individual residences have big problems with cheap, poorly maintained, and unprofessionally deployed backup generators.

        I don’t care how many layers of generation the municipality has

        I care quite a bit. A municipality without redundancy is going to have huge problems

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          2 months ago

          Obviously I care…I said it that way to highlight the point of: if the municipal system is down for reasons then having options outside of that is critical.

          When considering self sufficiency, grid scale efficiency is obviously a lower order priority, over uptime, and resilience.

          Edit further, my generator was installed by a licensed electrician with dedicated panel, circuit and switch.

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            if the municipal system is down for reasons then having options outside of that is critical.

            Having a well-run municipal government mitigates this risk substantially.

            When considering self sufficiency, grid scale efficiency is obviously a lower order priority, over uptime, and resilience.

            If you want consistent and reliable uptime and a resilient capital stock, you are better off with a fully integrated industrial scale system than a DIY attachment kit. MUDs can (and in higher end developments increasingly do) offer this amenity. And they deliver it at a lower cost than the DIY solution, with far fewer personal risks and expenses.

            my generator was installed by a licensed electrician with dedicated panel, circuit and switch.

            That’s great. But it isn’t what I’d call “self-sufficient”. You’re entirely reliant on a third-party professional for this system to work.

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              Ok so you’re just being needlessly argumentative.

              My top level comment described choices I took in the system I live in. It doesn’t excuse that system, and doesn’t preclude improving that system.

              I’m not claiming I’m some off grid prepper. I’m saying I made choices to improve my power uptime, at my address, which happens to be in a storm fraught area where power goes out often. Edit my goals are fully met, and I’d be no better off with any available option. Suggesting I just magic up a grid solution is fantasy

              Your in my comment thread consistently arguing for systemic level changes in a described personal situation at one address.

              You’re just moving goalposts and being rude now for no reason. You think I don’t know that larger systems are more efficient? You don’t think I want a well run municipal government?

              I’ve made clear the confines of my comment goals, all else is just distraction.