Hotels are often cheaper in destination areas, and you get the convenience of fucking room service. In a lot of destination areas, home ownership has rapidly declined in favor of permanent AirBnB rentals. Because why charge $3000 in rent per month to a tenant, when you can charge $350 per night and have AirBnB guests for 20 nights a month?
But it also means Airbnb has landlords getting even more greedy. Cleaning fees are often used as a way to directly increase the rental cost. Requirements for guests are increasingly restrictive. And the nightly rent is often so exorbitant that you can literally get a hotel and room service for cheaper.
Yeah it’s gone full-circle like the whole situation with streaming services becoming cable. Funny how the world works so similarly in different places.
I have priced out Airbnb vs. hotels quite a few times over the past few years at my spouses request. I have never stayed at any of them as they have always been much more expensive for shittier accomodations. It simply doesn’t make any sense to me.
This past christmas, renting 2 hotel rooms at a nice hotel was cheaper than the worst dive of an Airbnb near my in-laws.
Yeah, there’s still plenty of places where AirBnB is competitive. When I’m in cities in France and Germany an apartment tends to cost about the same as a hotel room. Outside of cities hotels tend to cost a lot more.
I do that anyway while staying there, except for the sheets (takes very little time), and I would probably do it anyway even if not asked (though I’d keep the sheets on the bed) because that’s just common decency imo.
When I stay at hotels or rent cars, I do essentially the same thing, and I usually leave a tip because I know the cleaning staff get paid very little.
Same, and they usually don’t want me to do anything to the bed. Trash on the way out and didn’t be a pig.
There was a very out in the open camera in the living room of an Airbnb that I stayed in once and I really didn’t care for it and hadn’t noticed it in the listing. But, it was a basement suite of a family’s own house and I guess they were just concerned. I started looking for that more specifically but glad to hear Airbnb banned them completely.
Yeah, I think I’ve only seen a camera inside once or twice, and only in the living room/dining room. Hotels do the same in common areas like hallways and dining areas. It’s still not great, but it’s at least understandable.
Never used an AirBnB and never plan to. The whole “you have to clean up after yourself” part is a major turnoff for me. I go on vacation to relax, not clean. I rather pay a little bit extra for housekeeping.
You pay extra at AirBnB to clean up yourself regardless. They all charge a cleaning fee of $100-200. Plus “Fees” if you don’t do all of the cleaning yourself. It’s total nonsense. The price is more hidden than a damn phone bill.
The whole “you have to clean up after yourself” part is a major turnoff for me.
I mean, yeah you’re expected to be respectful of the space you’re using. If you make a mess, you’re expected to clean it up or pay an extra cleaning fee. There’s a really easy way around that though - don’t make a mess. Seems reasonable to me.
Right, but hotels don’t expect you to take out the trash, wash the towels/bedding, or wash the water cups/ice bucket. Even if you don’t make a mess you still often have to do those things on top of the cleaning fee you’re paying.
Every Airbnb I’ve ever stayed in doesn’t make me do any of that. Obviously if the trash gets full, I’d take it out, but it’s never been a requirement. The furthest I’ve ever had to go with bedding/towels is to remove them from the beds and pile them up on the floor. Similar with dishes, I’ve only ever had to put them in the dishwasher, never wash them myself.
I’ve had the same experience, though I’ve only used a handful of them. It’s definitely worth it for us since we use them for reunions, so there’s >20 people staying there and we value the larger gathering areas. I never use them for just us (wife and kids) because it’s not really price efficient.
That said, when I start in a hotel, I usually clean up after myself. I know the cleaning staff get paid poorly, so I leave a modest tip and do most of the tidying myself.
Not making a mess is fine. However, I don’t make my bed at home. I don’t want to do it when I travel. Messy bedsheets don’t bother me. I don’t want more responsibility when I travel than I have at home.
I guess it depends on the area. In France, airbnbs are usually cheaper than hotels (especially if you’re 2 or more). Plus having a kitchen means saving quite a lot on food compared to having to eat at restaurants or takeouts.
I stopped using airbnb long ago… hotels can be around the same price too
Hotels are often cheaper in destination areas, and you get the convenience of fucking room service. In a lot of destination areas, home ownership has rapidly declined in favor of permanent AirBnB rentals. Because why charge $3000 in rent per month to a tenant, when you can charge $350 per night and have AirBnB guests for 20 nights a month?
But it also means Airbnb has landlords getting even more greedy. Cleaning fees are often used as a way to directly increase the rental cost. Requirements for guests are increasingly restrictive. And the nightly rent is often so exorbitant that you can literally get a hotel and room service for cheaper.
Yeah it’s gone full-circle like the whole situation with streaming services becoming cable. Funny how the world works so similarly in different places.
it’s almost as if enshittification is a cycle!
The ultimate inevitable destination of capitalism. Enshrining greed in fact does NOT boost innovation.
I have priced out Airbnb vs. hotels quite a few times over the past few years at my spouses request. I have never stayed at any of them as they have always been much more expensive for shittier accomodations. It simply doesn’t make any sense to me.
This past christmas, renting 2 hotel rooms at a nice hotel was cheaper than the worst dive of an Airbnb near my in-laws.
You get to fuck room service? Where do you stay?!
At the Fuck Hotel in Fukuoka.
I’ve been, don’t believe the hype. Horse sashimi was delicious though.
Oh, you went to that place where they have the horse walk up to the table and slice you off a hunk, very nouveau riche!
Brb, visiting Japan.
Wtf who pays that much for 1 night? That’s hotel prices. AirBnBs are like $8-20 per night. That’s the point.
Maybe like 10+ years ago
No, that’s what I’m paying now. But it depends what country
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Yeah, there’s still plenty of places where AirBnB is competitive. When I’m in cities in France and Germany an apartment tends to cost about the same as a hotel room. Outside of cities hotels tend to cost a lot more.
And you’re not expected to do half the laundry, the dishes, and still pay a cleaning fee.
Obviously I won’t trash the room, but if I’m paying a cleaning fee, I will not be cleaning…
The places I’ve stayed are just:
I do that anyway while staying there, except for the sheets (takes very little time), and I would probably do it anyway even if not asked (though I’d keep the sheets on the bed) because that’s just common decency imo.
When I stay at hotels or rent cars, I do essentially the same thing, and I usually leave a tip because I know the cleaning staff get paid very little.
@sugar_in_your_tea @pezmaker
Same, and they usually don’t want me to do anything to the bed. Trash on the way out and didn’t be a pig.
There was a very out in the open camera in the living room of an Airbnb that I stayed in once and I really didn’t care for it and hadn’t noticed it in the listing. But, it was a basement suite of a family’s own house and I guess they were just concerned. I started looking for that more specifically but glad to hear Airbnb banned them completely.
Yeah, I think I’ve only seen a camera inside once or twice, and only in the living room/dining room. Hotels do the same in common areas like hallways and dining areas. It’s still not great, but it’s at least understandable.
Never used an AirBnB and never plan to. The whole “you have to clean up after yourself” part is a major turnoff for me. I go on vacation to relax, not clean. I rather pay a little bit extra for housekeeping.
You pay extra at AirBnB to clean up yourself regardless. They all charge a cleaning fee of $100-200. Plus “Fees” if you don’t do all of the cleaning yourself. It’s total nonsense. The price is more hidden than a damn phone bill.
I mean, yeah you’re expected to be respectful of the space you’re using. If you make a mess, you’re expected to clean it up or pay an extra cleaning fee. There’s a really easy way around that though - don’t make a mess. Seems reasonable to me.
Right, but hotels don’t expect you to take out the trash, wash the towels/bedding, or wash the water cups/ice bucket. Even if you don’t make a mess you still often have to do those things on top of the cleaning fee you’re paying.
Every Airbnb I’ve ever stayed in doesn’t make me do any of that. Obviously if the trash gets full, I’d take it out, but it’s never been a requirement. The furthest I’ve ever had to go with bedding/towels is to remove them from the beds and pile them up on the floor. Similar with dishes, I’ve only ever had to put them in the dishwasher, never wash them myself.
I’ve had the same experience, though I’ve only used a handful of them. It’s definitely worth it for us since we use them for reunions, so there’s >20 people staying there and we value the larger gathering areas. I never use them for just us (wife and kids) because it’s not really price efficient.
That said, when I start in a hotel, I usually clean up after myself. I know the cleaning staff get paid poorly, so I leave a modest tip and do most of the tidying myself.
Not making a mess is fine. However, I don’t make my bed at home. I don’t want to do it when I travel. Messy bedsheets don’t bother me. I don’t want more responsibility when I travel than I have at home.
No Airbnb I’ve ever stayed in has mandated that the beds be made.
I guess it depends on the area. In France, airbnbs are usually cheaper than hotels (especially if you’re 2 or more). Plus having a kitchen means saving quite a lot on food compared to having to eat at restaurants or takeouts.
Depends on your family situation. Typically I can find a 2 bedroom for the same price as an average priced hotel. My son sleeps talks and wakes us up.
My favorite sleep talk was when we were in Mexico and my son screams from the top of his lungs “Help!!! Help!!! Mom help!!!”
We didn’t sleep for the rest of the night from the shot of adrenaline rushing through my body.
No fucking way when you rent for a month
there are there are extended stay hotels with kitchens that can be pretty affordable in some areas