• Nacktmull
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    11 months ago

    Yup, I don´t even get why people would put those in the same list. Likes and lites are different genres and should be treated accordingly.

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      “Roguelite” isn’t really a genre, but a catchall for many types of game that use some elements that are common in roguelikes, but aren’t really roguelikes.

      I mean, Nova Drift and Inscryption are roguelites, but they just aren’t in the same genre of game at all. One’s an action Asteroids-like game, and the other a turn-based deckbuilder.

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        Thank´s for he further specification. I fully agree with you, although it is often treated as a genre, roguelite is in fact a wide category of games from different genres, that only share certain similarities, like having permadeath, meta progression and so on.

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        The answer to your question has been a subject of endless nerdy discussions for years. However I would answer it like this.

        Rogue-like, loose definition: A defined genre of games, based on the classic game Rogue. Key features of such games are:

        • dungeon crawling
        • procedurally generated levels
        • perma death
        • turn-based gameplay
        • grid-based movement

        Rogue-like, strict definition: A defined genre of games, based on the classic game Rogue. Key features of such games are:

        • dungeon crawling
        • procedurally generated levels
        • permadeath
        • turn-based gameplay
        • grid-based movement
        • non modal (every action should be available to the player regardless of where they are in the game)
        • complexity
        • resource management
        • hack and slash combat system
        • exploration of areas and items
        • typically such games are displayed in ASCII but it´s not a must

        Roguelike, examples:

        • Hack
        • NetHack
        • Ancient Domains of Mystery
        • Moria
        • Angband
        • Tales of Maj’Eyal
        • Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup

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        Rogue-lite, definition: Not a defined genre at all but just an umbrella term for games from any genre that share at least some of the following characteristics:

        • permadeath (a must have)
        • procedurally generated levels
        • metaprogression
        • short to medium length runs with victory conditions (a run can usually be finished in one sitting)

        Roguelite, examples

        • FTL - Faster Than Light
        • Dead Cells
        • Nova Drift
        • Hades
        • Children of Morta
        • Nuclear Throne
        • Nova Drift
        • Enter the Gungeon
        • The Binding of Isaac
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            You are welcome. I enjoy to systematize things :)

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          That definition of rougelike seems overly strict to me. I’d say the main difference is a system that provides progression outside of runs to make future runs easier. That would more things like FTL, enter the gungeon, and binding of Issac into the rougelike category.

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            The answer to your question has been a subject of endless nerdy discussions for years. However I would answer it like this.