• TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world
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    They’re higher in inflammatory fats (most seed oils are predominantly composed of omega-6 polyunsaturated fats/inflammatory fats). While our bodies do need some inflammatory and anti-inflammatory fats (sort of like we need Cholesterol) we do not need too much. Calling them toxic is a step too far, but all foods should be consumed in moderation.

    https://www.matherhospital.org/wellness-at-mather/diet-nutrition/the-connection-between-diet-and-inflammation/

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        Yep, that’s the main problem with all the buzzword substances that diet culture is obsessed with: fat, salt, carbs, etc… All of those are fine in moderation, but the problem is that the processed garbage that the average person eats for lunch contains a RIDICULOUS amount of those things.

        Not sugar, though. Sugar is just bad for you, full stop. 😆

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          If sugar is bad for you, vegetable starch is as well. Vegetable starches (potato, rice, wheat, corn) are chains of glucose molecules. They’re metabolized and raise blood glucose even faster than sucrose.

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            Obviously there are various forms of sugar in a lot of things, it’s just a carbohydrate. My point is that there is zero reason to ever ADD sugar to any food, period. It is not an essential nutrient and it does not add anything beneficial other than flavor. It only promotes tooth decay, diabetes, and eventual organ failure. Yum.

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              My point is that there is zero reason to ever ADD sugar to any food, period

              But you said it yourself, the reason to add it is for flavor.

              Whether you like it or not, flavor is an incredibly important part of food and eating. Arguably the most important.

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                As somebody who eats strict keto. There’s tons of flavors out there, that aren’t sugar-based. Basically any recipe from before 1900 adds tons of flavor without sugar.

                Sugar is addictive, so it’s extremely popular in cooking, especially restaurant food.

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                  Basically any recipe from before 1900 adds tons of flavor without sugar.

                  Except for cakes and cookies and pies and brownies and sorbets and ice creams and truffles and caramels and creme brulees and any number of delicious desserts which have all called for sugar for centuries

                  I’ve eaten plenty of keto treats because half the people I’ve dated in the last ten years have been keto… I’ll tell ya this, monkfruit extract, stevia, xylitol, maltitol, they’re all the same and they all have nothing on sugar, not even close

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              If you need to rehydrate a person fast, the optimal solution includes a lot of sugar.

              It still has all the negative effects, but it will hydrate you faster than any other oral solution.

              I forget the ratio but it’s water, salt, and sugar.

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            They aren’t great for you, unless you really need calories. Glycemic index based diets heavily limit them, so do diabetic diets, and keto practically bans them.

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              They’re good in the contexts of whole foods with protein, fiber and vitamins. I’m just pointing out that sugar and potatoes are almost the same thing.

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      If you consider calling them “toxic” too far, is that because you don’t want to be associated with the woo use of the word, or what?

      To me a substance that reduces your health when ingested is toxic, no?

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        You might want to re-read where I said

        While our bodies do need some inflammatory and anti-inflammatory fats… we do not need too much.

        To quote this article: https://www.realsimple.com/are-seed-oils-bad-for-you-6835267

        "While it’s important to reduce chronic inflammation in our bodies, inflammation does serve us in notable ways, and we actually need some of both kinds of fats. (When we experience physical, chemical, or heat trauma, the inflammatory response that our bodies carry out helps prevent damage from spreading to nearby tissues, works to remove cellular waste and pathogens, and springs the healing process into action.) "

        In fact, not removing cellular waste is bad.

        What we don’t need are the excessive servings we currently get. If people eat a bottle of aspirin, it will likely kill them, but there’s no need to label aspirin as toxic, if taken in moderation.