• dap@lemmy.onlylans.io
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    This appears to be a variation of the “standwich.” Please see the attached for an example.

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      The question is, if this appears on a captcha asking to click only on the sandwich images. Would you click on it?

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        Considering the captcha doesn’t actually know, and just judges if you are correct based off of other users entries I would click on it. My guess is most users would click it, but it’s ambiguous enough that you’d probably pass the captcha either way.

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      I miss when Tesco Value ham would label itself as such, rather than hiding behind fake farm names.

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    It’s clearly two sandwichs.

    The bold move would be to have the other side have the peanut butter and jelly swapped around. I’d call that the ouroboroswich.

    [edit] what if it only had 1 cut? I think that’d be a taco

    [edit 2] a torus cut once makes a cylinder. So really, it’s a double decker sandwich

    [edit 3] but it’s cylinders that loop back on themselves. Is it a mobiuswhich or a Klien Wich?

    [edit n] help

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        The Cube Rule is the most definitive and authoritative categorization of food topology I have encountered. I refer to it often in food related arguments.

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          But what is the abomination I’ve described? I don’t think it fits.

          I’m not ready for a world where the cube rule isn’t all encompassing

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            Although the bagel half on the bottom and the top are split toroids, topologically they are flat (you can ‘deform’ it into a flat plane if you squish it). This is assuming it hasn’t been cut down the center as well.

            The filling of PB&J is between the two starches. Therefore this is Food Type 2: Sandwich.

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              Okay but, what about down the centre as well? I think this is where the paved road ends

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                It is still a Type II sandwich, just that the middle portion is air.

                In crappy text form it’s equivalent to:

                Bread

                PB&J | Air | PB&J

                Bread

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                  Okay so I think I’m failing miserably at articulating quite the monstrosity I’ve imagined. For illustrative purposes:

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      I suppose it is neither a taco or a sand which, however it lives within the sandwich family. What’s weird is if we take the inner radius as it runs towards zero it would look no different to a sandwich (save the weirdly thick bread that looks similar to a burger), but it would be topologically different shape.

      I suppose it depends on if you consider a bagle split more naturally a sandwich or not, and, if so, then it matters if the if the space of the filling being connected matters or not.

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    It’s two sandwiches…topologically speaking.

    If you take the traditional idea of a sandwich and draw a loop around the plane where the surfaces come together you get a mathematical sandwich.

    Since the bagel abomination has two such areas and you can draw non-intersecting loops around each, it follows that there are indeed two sandwiches present.

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      That depends on your definition of a sandwichable surface. If crust can be buttered as well and is considered equal to cut surfaces (which, coming from a rye bread country, is certainly the case with these fluffy things), then this is simply a sandwich without filling in the middle. This might also be achieved by suboptimal spreading on a single surface.

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        I’m pretty sure it counts as a sandwich as defined by the ham sandwich theorem. The only part that might be debatable is that the filling is not a single connected volume, but that doesn’t seem to be required by the proof.

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    It is a sandwich because the toppings are sandwiched between bread. But it’s not a good sandwich.

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    This is clearly a sandwich. The confusion comes from how absurdly sub-optimal its construction is.

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    Top bun? Check

    Bottom bun? Check

    Yep, it’s a sandwich. I’d like to see a video of you eating it now.

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      Pretty sure flatbread predated leavened bread, so it’s reasonable to conclude tacos predated both hot dogs and sandwiches.

      Conclusion: Hot dogs are tacos, sandwiches are broken tacos.

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          Pizza is just an open face sandwich, but arguments can be made that New York style is a taco because most people fold it to consume it.

          Have to ask yourself what a calzone is then.

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            A calzone is a wrap/burrito. Unless uncrustables are in play and are recognized as their own distinct category. In which case a calzone is an uncrustable or vice versa

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                Pastries are an umbrella category of baked goods that are usually but not always sweet. The composition of the dough and preparation techniques are different and distinct from the sandwich debate. Though I guess you could make the case for empanadas. Or that calzones are large Italian empanadas and uncrustables are also a type of empanada. Hmmm 🤔

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            A loaf of bread.

            Bread often has stuff baked into it, so what’s the difference between a loaf of bread with cheese or nuts baked into it vs. a loaf with chicken, cheese, and marina sauce baked into it.

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          Sort of. As the other commenter pointed out, they are open face.

          Sandwiches are broken tacos, but pizzas are not broken.

          Pizzas are open face tacos.

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      So sandwich is the parent category, and hot dogs are a type of sandwich? Are burgers, too?

      Oh no I accidentally started researching, there is an actual British Sandwich Association that defines sandwich as “any form of bread with a filling, generally assembled cold”. The USDA, however, has different definitions for open and closed sandwiches and it depends on the percentage amounts of bread and meat… I guess if you put cheese on your bread it’s not a sandwich at all!

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        Heresy! I demand the BSA’s definition to be accepted and adopted everywhere! “if you put cheese on your bread its not a sandwich at all!” - this is unbeliveable and hilarious

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          I know, lol. Seriously how many well-known sandwiches have “cheese” or “melt” right in their name?!

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          Any form of bread with a filling, generally assembled cold

          But, dare I say, does that not make a ravioli a sandwich? A poptart? Mayhaps even … Lasagna?

          Ah, you proclaim! But those are cooked further!

          But so too is a grilled cheese! And a patty melt!

          Where will the madness end?

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    Some men aren’t looking for anything logical, like money. They can’t be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    What do we call it if it is also cut and filled in the conventional bagel plane?

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        I like the way you think. That also leaves open the possibly of the yandwich, which is cut into three equal segments in the same way as the opening post, and the xyandwich when you combine the x and y options.

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          Tesserwich is a possibility if you start fucking around in the Fourth dimension.

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            I’ve been trying to work out if, by cutting a helix around the bagel, you can create a mobius type sandwich with two, interlinked parts.

            Moving in to higher dimensional bagel cutting is probably the sort of thing you can really make one’s brain hurt.

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              I think a Mobius bagel would be a SCP artifact. In before it’s actually cataloged and numbered.

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        I realise that you are correct, but which way is the sandwich, and which way is the cut? It’s filled on both planes.