The boss has the power to fix things, to some degree. You don’t get to say “I’m the boss and I’m working myself to death, so my employees should, too.” and expect to be respected. Bosses should know better, it’s literally their job to know better, and they have the power to make people’s lives better.
And of course many bosses and CEOs and presidents are hypocrites. How often are they on TV remotely talking about how bad remote work is?
Also, in Japan, low level employees are often expected to arrive before the boss and leave after the boss.
I think people really missed my point, and thought I was somehow arguing in favour of poor working conditions.
My point was that the Lemmy response that “well why doesn’t the boss do this?” is not the right negotiation tactic.
The right negotiation tactic is, for example, to argue that it’s in the benefit of the company and society to improve working conditions. For example, you argue that by allowing remote working, you are encouraging not only a happier and more productive environment, but you are widening access and better able to recruit the top people.
There are lots of ways to argue for better conditions. The reaction of “well the boss doesn’t do it so I won’t either” is not a great tactic. If the boss does put in crazy hours, where does that leave your negotiation stance?
Ah. It is because your first comment was vague. You didn’t actually say what you disagreed with. If you had said, “Pointing out hypocrisy on its own is not a great way to negotiate. Let’s try these other approaches instead or as well.” then I think people would have agreed with you more.
Of course it was still peculiar that you brought up Japan, since it doesn’t actually show what you wanted it to show, for reasons previously mentioned.
The boss has the power to fix things, to some degree. You don’t get to say “I’m the boss and I’m working myself to death, so my employees should, too.” and expect to be respected. Bosses should know better, it’s literally their job to know better, and they have the power to make people’s lives better.
And of course many bosses and CEOs and presidents are hypocrites. How often are they on TV remotely talking about how bad remote work is?
Also, in Japan, low level employees are often expected to arrive before the boss and leave after the boss.
I think people really missed my point, and thought I was somehow arguing in favour of poor working conditions.
My point was that the Lemmy response that “well why doesn’t the boss do this?” is not the right negotiation tactic.
The right negotiation tactic is, for example, to argue that it’s in the benefit of the company and society to improve working conditions. For example, you argue that by allowing remote working, you are encouraging not only a happier and more productive environment, but you are widening access and better able to recruit the top people.
There are lots of ways to argue for better conditions. The reaction of “well the boss doesn’t do it so I won’t either” is not a great tactic. If the boss does put in crazy hours, where does that leave your negotiation stance?
Ah. It is because your first comment was vague. You didn’t actually say what you disagreed with. If you had said, “Pointing out hypocrisy on its own is not a great way to negotiate. Let’s try these other approaches instead or as well.” then I think people would have agreed with you more.
Of course it was still peculiar that you brought up Japan, since it doesn’t actually show what you wanted it to show, for reasons previously mentioned.