So the best you can offer is the same people who wrote the bills to pipeline my community to prisons? The same people profiteering off of carceral slavery? The same people who won’t close the border camps? The same war criminal imperialists? Do you recognize how ghoulish it is to demand complicity in your favored party’s crimes in return for rights for American marginalized?
While we’re here, since you want to place the thought-terminating cliche game, do you know what the ‘fallacist’s fallacy’ is? Relying on calling out a rhetorical device to shut down a conversation.
I’m not saying it’s a perfect solution, or even a good one, but as long as elections are winner-take-all first-past-the-post, then decisions will always come down to two parties. The fact of the matter is, if people who would vote Democrat instead vote third party, then the Republicans will win. No justified grievances will change that. Given their recent track record, the Republicans will be much worse for equality.
So it comes down to this: a third party may be better than the Democrats, but the Democrats would be better than the Republicans. Voting third party, while better for one conscience, would result in worse outcomes in reality, because it would result in a win of the third-place pick. Therefore the only logical choice is to vote for our second-place pick. Unless we can improve our voting system before the next election, that is.
(If your answer is yes, my next question is: based on what evidence and why now if, according to your logic, the point is to limit the Dems’ power and third parties can take power from the uniparty?)
“but the Democrats would be better than the Republicans”
No. There is absolutely zero evidence of that and a lot of evidence to the contrary. Neither is better than the other because they are two sides of the same warmongering corporate uniparty. This “lesser evil” argument is just a scam that you liberals still keep falling for.
The only logical choice is to vote third party, or not vote at all because no matter the outcome it will change absolutely nothing with regard to the main policies of the bourgeois imperialist state. But at least voting third party will piss off some libs and who knows, you may get a decent mayor or city councillor elected somewhere if you get absurdly and astronomically lucky.
Just because it’s a quote doesn’t mean that’s it’s good advice. (That’s called an Appeal to Authority Fallacy.)
By FAR the best party in America to vote for today is the Democrats, if you want rights for marginalized communities.
So the best you can offer is the same people who wrote the bills to pipeline my community to prisons? The same people profiteering off of carceral slavery? The same people who won’t close the border camps? The same war criminal imperialists? Do you recognize how ghoulish it is to demand complicity in your favored party’s crimes in return for rights for American marginalized?
While we’re here, since you want to place the thought-terminating cliche game, do you know what the ‘fallacist’s fallacy’ is? Relying on calling out a rhetorical device to shut down a conversation.
I’m not saying it’s a perfect solution, or even a good one, but as long as elections are winner-take-all first-past-the-post, then decisions will always come down to two parties. The fact of the matter is, if people who would vote Democrat instead vote third party, then the Republicans will win. No justified grievances will change that. Given their recent track record, the Republicans will be much worse for equality.
So it comes down to this: a third party may be better than the Democrats, but the Democrats would be better than the Republicans. Voting third party, while better for one conscience, would result in worse outcomes in reality, because it would result in a win of the third-place pick. Therefore the only logical choice is to vote for our second-place pick. Unless we can improve our voting system before the next election, that is.
… Then… make them not be? “But we can’t use the current system to do that”… Then don’t do that? Throw the entire system away?
People have been trying to do that for decades now. It won’t suddenly happen between now and next election.
Will it happen if the Dems get a landslide?
(If your answer is yes, my next question is: based on what evidence and why now if, according to your logic, the point is to limit the Dems’ power and third parties can take power from the uniparty?)
No. There is absolutely zero evidence of that and a lot of evidence to the contrary. Neither is better than the other because they are two sides of the same warmongering corporate uniparty. This “lesser evil” argument is just a scam that you liberals still keep falling for.
The only logical choice is to vote third party, or not vote at all because no matter the outcome it will change absolutely nothing with regard to the main policies of the bourgeois imperialist state. But at least voting third party will piss off some libs and who knows, you may get a decent mayor or city councillor elected somewhere if you get absurdly and astronomically lucky.
https://letterfromjail.com/
If you’re trying to suggest they’re committing a fallacy here, you picked the wrong one.
You are the fox
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I think you might need to learn more about fallacies, check this out
I think this one explains it much more concisely