• NatakuNox@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    Yup. Democratic leadership would rather trump win than run a left-facing campaign and candidate. What’s the definition of insanity?

    • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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      10 hours ago

      100%

      Here in deep-red Missouri the $15 minimum wage passed in a landslide, but for some reason, all Democrats wanted to talk about was tax cuts that no one thinks they’ll actually pass anyway.

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      12 hours ago

      The Democratic Party is basically dead now. Time to sit back and watch the MAGAs eat themselves. Clock ticking.

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        You won’t live long enough to see the end of MAGA. You will live to see the end of American Democracy.

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        Well that’s one way to look at this positively.

        How do you see this going down? Internal power struggles and tantrum hissy fits?

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      Democratic leadership is those of us who do the thankless work of playing politics to help others.

      Find something different. You won’t. Sure Progressive Party Whatever - they’ll run into the exact same thing. You’re re-inventing the wheel because you don’t know that.

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        6 hours ago

        That’s…

        I’m not sure we’re all talking about the same thing. The Democratic Party has been playing to the “center” longer than any of us have been alive, while shunning, excommunicating, and often literally arresting anyone to the left. And all that accomplishes and has ever accomplished is the Overton window shifting further and further right. Kamala was running on bragging about hiring “the good” republicans while sidestepping the massive issues anyone even slightly progressive wanted to talk about (and what almost surely turned off a huge portion of voters), which is the ongoing genocide in Gaza. She finally said the day before the election that she would do “everything in her power to end the war,” which is still not nearly enough when discussing a fuckin genocide.

        So many of the people I know are leftists. None of them voted for her because of it. Sure, the democrats and liberals I know did—my parents, for example. But they have voted democrat the entire time I’ve been alive. They are solid, reliable Dem voters. They’re not the people she needed to appeal to either—but keeping them was certainly more important than any mythical “centrist/swing” voter.

        Everyone that was arrested for sitting in school buildings protesting the genocide, everyone who is sickened by what we’re seeing. Who couldn’t stomach voting for someone who didn’t feel the need to say it was a genocide that sickens them. THOSE are the people the dems gain when, like in 2020, things are so bad they hold their noses and increase turnout, and they’re the votes they lose when they hold office and maintain the genocidal status quo.

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          Who has been arrested for not being Dem enough? Oh, that’s right. Nobody. And the Republicans have never, will never, and absolutely will never stop Gaza genocide.

          Fuck Putin.

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      Yeah no. I hate the democrats, I’m a registered libertarian. The popular vote said they’re fine with project 2025.

      I don’t really care what issues anyone had. It was exesetential. We failed. That’s not a party issue, it’s an American issue. I don’t care about turnout, if you didn’t turn out you don’t care. Thats not on the party that’s on you. I don’t care about policy, it’s all about to get worse, we’ve seen it. Parties cease to matter when there’s dead bodies in the halls of government. We all saw the worst fucking coup attempt in history… And it worked. There is no party to blame for that. 2016 came down to poor leadership, this is just… deserved.

      We’ll see what’s left to re-build with.