• sauna7843@lemmy.ml
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    Here is my take on karma. Karma gives users an incentive to post content based more around grabbing attention than quality.

    I think it is for the best that karma doesn’t exist here as it allows users to post what they feel without an alterior motive such as gaining internet points.

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    1 year ago

    Image Transcription: Comic


    [There’s no karma?, By Victor Gnarly]


    Panel 1

    [A hooded figure in black robes, and no face visible save for large, pure red eyes is speaking a room made of stone. The hooded figure speaks in white text bubbles to another character outside of the frame, who responds with black text bubbles]

    Hooded figure: So… There’s no karma?

    Black text bubble: Ye-

    Hooded figure: No greedy CEO?

    Black text bubble: Yep.


    Panel 2

    [The out of frame character speaking in black text bubbles is now shown to be a second hooded figure with round red eyes, standing next to hooded figure 1 in the stone room. Hooded figure 1 has a hand outstretched as they speak, while hooded figure 2 is giving them a thumbs up in response. There is a small fire burning on an altar in the background.]

    Hooded figure 1: All ad free?

    Hooded figure 2: Oh yeah.


    Panel 3

    [Hooded figure 1 is shown in close up again, pointing a finger to their left, with their eyes wide in a look of surprise]

    Hooded figure 1: But why is the logo a-


    Panel 4

    [Both hooded figure 1 and hooded figure 2 are shown standing on opposite sides of a large drawing of the fediverse icon on the floor, a rainbow pentagram. There is a pure white, slightly transparent glowing figure with wide eyes standing in the centre of the pentagram, their arms outstretched. There is a small white ball on top of an antenna on top of the glowing figure’s head, with a beam of white light shining from their head to the ceiling. Squiggles of white energy and red streaks of fire fill the room, emanating from the glowing figure. Hooded figure 1 has their arm slightly raised, as if to shield themselves from the energy in the room]

    Hooded figure 1: Pentagram?

    Hooded figure 2: Reasons.


    ^I’m a human volunteer transcribing posts in a format compatible with screen readers, for blind and visually impaired users!^

  • W6KME@lemmy.world
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    What a thought…we’ll have to form opinions of people based upon what they write, not on points that could always be faked or whored. Popularity is an incredibly stupid measure of quality. I’d like to see the up/down arrow on threads replaced by a simple view counter, too.

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      It’s not about forming opinions though - it’s about deciding what order to sort posts. Sorting by date / view count / upvote count is pretty crap. We only get away with it now because there aren’t many people posting. That’s changing.

      Pretty much all social networks these days have some kind of “karma” like score, though it often isn’t visible to anyone. Obviously in the fediverse it would be visible (though maybe not activley promoted?).

      The best karma implementation that I know of is the one on Stack Exchange, though I’d like it more if it wasn’t so easy to have a high score just by having been on the network for a long time (my score over there is ridiculously high for someone who barely participates these days).

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        The current state of comment aggregation isnt really like that. By default the ‘Hot’ sorting is used, which is a ranking method based on a combination of no. of impressions & time passed since the last comment, and decays over time. By no means a perfect solution, but the one you proposed sounds incompatible with the decentralised nature of aggregation for fediverse content

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        Just because the current system doesn’t do what you want, you think going back to a system of cheating and popularity contests is good? Think carefully about that. Unless you’re the sort who also refuses to listen to music that isn’t on the Top Ten list and only goes to blockbuster movies. If that’s the case, honestly the Fediverse may not be the place for you.

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          If I wanted to use Reddit/Twitter/etc, I wouldn’t have deleted my account on those two platforms. Definitely don’t want the fediverse to go that direction.

          But I personally believe the problems with those platforms are 100% the fault of the people running the place and the bad decisions they have made in the past and will continue to make in the future.

          I think a karma based ranking algorithm, designed by a community that has the right intentions (find good content, and sort it at the top), will work well. Also I think the fediverse is uniquely able to find the right algorithm because each instance can potentially run a different ranking algorithm.

          The same way some instances have “vote down” and other instances only have vote up. Time will tell which approach is better, and all the instances will surely adopt the best one.

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            It may indeed all work out, but I cannot see any possible benefit at all to karma. No matter the intention, it allows opinions to be formed without reading content. People will almost always act like sheep, and too many people will associate karma with legitimacy. I think it would be an incredibly foolish thing to adopt it.

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    What good is a website if you can’t summon Eldritch entities?

    Edit: that website doesn’t load for me

  • cashews_win@lemmy.world
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    It’s a rainbow pentagram which means only the gayest of demons will be brought forth. Only bottoms need worry about their horned dicks.

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    1 year ago

    Huh, I hadn’t noticed that before. Definitely gonna be the focus of some unstable people I’m sure.

  • Slyme (Inactive, see bio)@lemmy.world
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    “Not gonna tell you what to do, but here is the post on Reddit.”

    Can’t upvote it there, I already added a redirector rule that redirects all requests that go to reddit.com to about:blank.

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    And why is it called the Fediverse huh? How could you fall for such a clear honeypot smh my head

    It’s ALL connected!