• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    Whoever posted that doesn’t understand libertarians.

    If there were no government regulations, they would have nothing to complain about and their lives would be ruined.

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      If there were no government regulations, they would have nothing to complain about

      I promise you that if you put a libertarian into a place without government regulation, they will still insist that there is a secret government regulation responsible for their lives being shit.

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        Sadly, I think you’re probably right. I used to tell them to go to Rwanda if they wanted to live in a tax-free utopia, but Rwanda has taxation now what with it having a more or less functional government now.

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        You seem to confuse us with leftists. No, it’s not the patriarchy/white people keeping you down. We’re the first to tell you that you are responsible for your own success

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          Keep on assuming we just don’t understand, despite libertarians spewing their shit all over the Internet for decades at this point.

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              If you’ve been spewing your shit all over the Internet for decades and people still think that, then either:

              • Your outreach efforts don’t work
              • You actually are, because that’s how you behave in practice no matter what you babble about when proselytizing
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                People still think bisexuals are gays in denial. People still think there are two genders. It’s hard to escape binary thinking

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          they will still insist that there is a secret government regulation responsible for their lives being shit.

          We’re the first to tell you that you are responsible for your own success

          The problem is being the last to admit that you are responsible for all your own fuckups.

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            To claim credit for your successes you need to also admit fault for your failures, it goes both ways

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              I’m dying right now. You must be going through life with horse-blinders on or something.

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                What’s your point? Libertarians are all about taking personal responsibility

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                  Ron Paul can’t even take responsibility for racist newsletters.

                  Edit: will you respond with “he didn’t have time to edit them” (undermining the personal responsibility point), or “Ron Paul isn’t libertarian” (No True Libertarian). I await with baited breath.

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                    I used to like him as an outsider candidate, but I can no longer endorse his views, especially as he tacitly defends Russian authoritarian state by demanding the US go back on its security guarantees.

                    There’s a split between Kremlintarians and liberal democracy supporting libertarians. The racist newsletters were the canary in the coal mine, Ron Paul is actually fairly right wing and gets a lot of support from right wing people. I would no longer support him or his son for President.

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                  Do you have a source on that? My experience with libertarians is “I do what I want, and if I cause problems for you, fuck you” not “I’m personally responsible for my actions and the effects they have on my surroundings”.

                  Also, you blindly missing the point, and then dodging it instead of admitting you missed the crux of the issue was just chef’s kiss perfect.

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      I would say that whoever posted that understands libertarians perfectly, and maybe libertarians don’t understand themselves and libertarianism

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      Every Internet post about any political party is almost always about the wild caricatures people have in their head, because actually talking about politics IRL is a taboo because everyone is too damn scared and/or jaded to do anything but spout extreme bullshit online under an anonymous persona. All liberals are child-murduring blue-haired SJWs, all conservatives are rednecks bent on bringing back slavery and committing trans genocide, and all libertarians are secretly nazis or children who don’t get how the world works. The Internet says so.