• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    Biden isn’t a realistic candidate if he doesn’t shift on Palestine.

    He’s been polling below Trump for over a year. He suffers a 12 point polling error spread.

    Biden isn’t a viable candidate right now. Its because of his position on Palestine.

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      Biden isn’t a realistic candidate if he doesn’t shift on Palestine.

      How convenient, Biden isn’t a realistic candidate if he doesn’t shift his position on YOUR issue of choice. Meanwhile, most of the American electorate puts foreign policy near the bottom of their list of concerns.

      He’s been polling below Trump for over a year. He suffers a 12 point polling error spread.

      Oh, and he’ll gain 12 points from swapping positions on Palestine?

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        Like, do you see these threads?

        You’ve catalyzed a huge cohort of people against your position and approach. Do you see how many people are becoming activated and joining the conversation just to strike you down? This is because of your approach to rhetoric. You are actively costing Biden votes, like… right now.

        You can’t do this by convincing people to vote for the lessor. If you want the audience to vote for Biden, you have to take a different approach

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          You’ve catalyzed a huge cohort of people against your position and approach. Do you see how many people are becoming activated and joining the conversation just to strike you down?

          Oh damn, you’ve got me, let me check the ratios along these comments

          Still waiting for you to tell me how Palestine will win Biden 12 percentage points, in your view.

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              So if I present to you evidence that voting uncommitted in the primary isn’t evidence of intent to withhold their vote in the general, you’ll withdraw your position?

              Still waiting for you to tell me how he’s going to gain 12 percentage points from an issue that is one of the lowest rated on voter’s important issues.

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                Bro 30% of voters in MN, one of the most reliably democratic states in the country held their votes back from Biden because of Palestine.

                If Biden doesn’t get WI, MN, IL and MN, he’s done. 0 chance. He can’t get those states right now. The only question is what is it going to take to get him to move policy positions, and what is showing effectiveness in this regard is withholding support.

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                  FYI: I voted uncommitted to send a message to Biden that I care about Gaza and what happens there. I also recognize that the Republicans will jump in with both feet on “burn it to the ground with nuclear fire”, so I did what I could to communicate with Biden, and will also be voting for him in the general. I’m one vote, but I know I’m not the only person with that view.

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                  So you have nothing in response except to repeat yourself despite the objections raised. Unsurprising.

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          Like, do you see these threads?

          You’ve catalyzed a huge cohort of people against your position and approach. Do you see how many people are becoming activated and joining the conversation just to strike you down?

          LMAO he’s clearly getting more and more upvotes. While you’re getting downvoted and removed. You’re so delusional.

          Keep it up though, you’re doing a great job of the exact opposite of what you think you’re doing.

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      Who’s the alternative candidate with a reasonable shot at winning that has a policy that is more beneficial for Palestinians than Biden?

      Don’t say something stupid like “polling less than 1% for the 5th time Jill Stein” or “I’m not even sure which party I’m the candidate for but I need to sell some more books Cornell West”.

      Here’s a list of third party candidates to help you out.

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        every one of theim has a reasonable shot at winning if they run a good campaign. i think cornel west and jill stein are fine candidates.

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              It’s not a refutation, its a question expressed with skepticism.

              Regardless I don’t think anyone is interested in explaining their path to the required 270 electoral college votes, but if you are I’m interested in hearing it.

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                  Okay, that’s not really how politics works at all any where in the world. I guess having such a simplistic and idealistic view of how politics works is what led you to the conclusion that any of the 3rd party candidates had a shot at getting elected.