Inb4 lemmy supports Iran

  • tsonfeir
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    7 months ago

    Revenge for revenge for revenge, oh my!

    • wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works
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      7 months ago

      What exactly would you suggest a country does after another country bombs their embassy? Send flowers and say pretty please don’t do it again uWu?

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        7 months ago

        Be the bigger human and stop the violence is what I would expect.

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          7 months ago

          So continue to get walked all over. Makes sense. Israel has been illegally hitting Iranian targets in Syria for years and years, Israel had the US assassinate Soleimani, yet Iran never responded in kind. But bombing and embassy was an obvious last straw.

          • kbotc@lemmy.world
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            7 months ago

            Israel didn’t do shit to make us kill Soleimani. Soleimani was literally meeting with someone who we blamed for an attack on the US embassy in Iraq. He was the other person killed in the strike. Iran knew they fucked up there, which is why their response was throwing a fairly ineffective barrage at a military base and then shooting down their own civilian airliner.

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                7 months ago

                Known liar claims someone else was going to help him do something bad after getting in trouble for it.

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                  7 months ago

                  It does seem extremely likely that israel was involved in this as getting America in a war with Iran is something israel would absolutely love. Trump is directly throwing Netanyahu under the bus here for seemingly no reason.

                  There are also other reports being sourced in the article:

                  Trump felt used on Soleimani strike: “Israel did not do the right thing”

                  Between the lines: It’s unclear if Trump’s anger is entirely justified. A senior Israeli defense official told me that Israel proposed a more active role for Israeli forces but the U.S. insisted on being the ones to execute the

                  Israel also provided the U.S. with key intelligence support, including tracking Soleimani’s cellphone, Yahoo News

                  The former senior U.S. official said Trump’s anger wasn’t totally warranted, but that he put the episode into the same box he had put his feelings for NATO — of allies wanting the U.S. to do their fighting for them.

                  Just like the Iraq invasion also turned out to have heavy israeli pressure to attack Iraq behind it. And Syria… Israel has a rather large track record for pushing America to attack their enemies in the Middle East.

          • tsonfeir
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            7 months ago

            Well, Israel is gonna hit back. So, where does it end, since you seem to think my idea is bad.

            ))<>((

        • Gabu@lemmy.world
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          7 months ago

          Iran did just that. Israel spit on their faces. Now they get what they deserve.

          • tsonfeir
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            7 months ago

            Well, Iran was providing weapons to various groups that were fighting Israel. The target Israel hit was a military target that supposedly was a meeting of high ranking personnel from various groups. Iran’s involvement is typically indirect and involves support through these proxies rather than direct confrontation. This strategy allows Iran to confront Israeli interests without engaging in open warfare.

            Again, I don’t think any country should be fighting or providing military aid to fight indirectly (this includes the US providing weapons to Israel). The world is a terrible place and we should be focusing on making it better, not having petty squabbles over land.

            • Gabu@lemmy.world
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              7 months ago

              Then you should campaign for the extinction of Israel, as the zionist state does nothing but cause suffering.

              • tsonfeir
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                7 months ago

                Are you suggesting genocide?

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                    Genocide is the intentional and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group. This includes actions such as killing members of the group, causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group, deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction, imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group, and forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. The concept was defined in international law by the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (1948).​⬤

    • bartolomeo@suppo.fi
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      7 months ago

      What was Israel’s rationale for bombing Iran’s embassy in Syria and killing 12 Iranians? Revenge for what?

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        7 months ago

        Preface: I have no favorite in that conflict, I’m just answering your question. They’re all being children imo.

        On the broader topic, Iran’s significant support for Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza, both of which are considered major security threats by Israel, has been a central factor driving Israeli military actions. Iran supplies these groups with financial aid, weapons, and training, enhancing their capabilities against Israel.

        Regarding the specific target in Syria, I assume this Israel’s attempt to prevent Iran from gaining a strategic position to launch attacks against Israel.

        There have been conflicts in this region for a very long time. They are pretty much always at war.