I’ve heard only the briefest information about what is going on with Reddit. Is the blackout something that is temporarily being done by the community or is it permanent?
The blackout itself is an initiative by the community. However, from June 30th third party apps will no longer work, and many users (and moderators of many large subs) have explicitly said that they aren’t interested in continuing with the official Reddit app or site. This will cause a huge chunk of reddit users to leave. Some will go back, some won’t. Besides that, it’s a matter of principle. They’re choosing stakeholders over users.
“it’s a matter of principle. They’re choosing stakeholders over users.”
this is why I don’t plan to go back. Honestly if there was a community this size on here years ago I would have switched. Even if the community shrinks from what it is now, I still don’t feel like it will be worth going back.
I think the bigger issue is that a lot of moderation tools are third party apps. Without those apps, whole moderation workflows will fall apart. A lot of the higher quality subs simply won’t have the support to maintain that quality.
While reddit won’t die all that soon, it’s started circling the drain.
Some mods are permanently or “indefinitely” closing, some are opening their subs back up tomorrow.
People here are on board with Reddit being over; that’s why many of them have jumped ship to new best friend Lemmy.
But, like, digg.com still exists. Only time will tell where if anywhere will really become the next place to be, or if Reddit will somehow recover its coolness.
Yeah, reddit is presently less “over” than twitter, and I still can’t stop seeing dumb-ass tweets in every social media setting I interact with. I think it’s very premature to guess at what’s over. Like, I don’t even know if reddit is completely over for me yet, and I have a long habit of jumping off social media before it dies.
The protest will be temporary for some subreddits, but indefinite for others. I don’t think that Reddit Inc. will accept the demands; instead it might force the subreddits to open again.
But in the medium- or the long-term, Reddit is over. I don’t think that the platform will recover from that. Even the ones left behind will be less eager to contribute with it, so there’ll be less content, so less encouragement to browse it, thus less content, in a downwards spiral.
“My drill is the drill that’s gonna pierce the heavens!” - Simon.
“My drill is the drill that’ll bury Reddit into hell!” - Steve “Pigboy” Huffman.
instead it might force the subreddits to open again.
Even if they do, many of the mods simply wouldn’t return to moderate. And as someone else mentioned many of the mods rely on third party apps to moderate efficiently. Without that support the subreddit a will spiral out of control with bots and spam, surely.
Another possibility is that they’ll demote top mods from subs protesting, where there’s an available sycophant to take their role. Apparently that already happened with r/adviceanimals.
Either way the situation will spiral out of control, because of what you said plus people actively trashing the sycophant in protest against taking the side of the admins. (Plus typical hate against mods. Frankly? Given how power-hungry the Reddit moderation is, as a collective, I get it.)
Plus the content creators themselves are disengaging.
For most subreddits it is temporary blackout but some communities like one of the piracy subreddits I saw completely packed bags and the mods moved to lemmy. It’s too early to say if reddit is over or if this is just a temporary setback. Reddit may even concede and revert some of their api changes to appease the populace. Simply put, we don’t know enough yet.
Inertia is a thing, both in a positive and negative way. What I mean by that is, you can reach a threshold where people are leaving fast enough that Reddit will lose more people than not (positive from our current point of view).
The other way it works is people are just so used to Reddit and the habit returns quickly once the blackout is over (negative from our point of view).
Which way will this go? My pessimistic outlook is that tons of people are exploring Lemmy/KBin/whatever fediverse thing now while they have a Reddit sized hole in their daily routines, but once Reddit is back they will go back there. I think this is shown in how Twitter users bailed off pretty hard at first and Mastodon got a bunch of new people but those people slowly went back to Twitter. Some people will stay at the new place for sure, but a lot won’t. None of that is really a problem per se, either.
yes, the vast majority of what people would call the “reddit OGs” have now migrated to fediverse in the last 4 years, this last reddit event pushes almost all of them to at least have an account. A number of prolific content creators are going to home here now and some will now only post fedi links on reddit if they stay at all.
the empire has fallen, it will smolder for years if they dont go under first, thus is the case of critical mass communities. We are returning to a system that is modeled more after the way the internet was designed and built to operate based on open protocols and standards rather than gatekeeping corporations.
its our commons again.
Some users like us will stay on Lemmy/kbin or any other sites, but according to experience (Twitter), probably most of the userbase will stay on Reddit.
