• Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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      8 months ago

      The US needs to stop funding genocide.

      Use the word. It’s important. It’s what it is. This is a modern holocaust happening before our eyes, and we are complicit in it.

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        8 months ago

        How the fuck are ‘we’ complicit in it when our government only follows the average citizen’s will in 10% of their policies?

        You’re just like the megacorps chiding us for not recycling our water bottle caps.

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          The American public isn’t trying to recall or remove politicians who support unrestricted arms sales to Israel. Both Biden and Trump are for unrestricted sales, it seems.

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              If Biden wants to ignore the will of voters then he can win his own election without us.

              I want Trump to lose too, but Biden has been really insulting to the pro-Palestine voters, which is unlike any presidents before him. He couldn’t even bring himself to acknowledge or pretend to grieve for dead Palestinians although he publicly hugs families of Israeli victims.

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                  That cuts both ways. We don’t believe Biden along with his moderate and liberal voters are taking the threat of Trump seriously when they refuse to compromise with leftists and progressives they’re depending on for votes. If you believe Trump is half as dangerous as you say he is then cutting off weapon shipments is a bargain. Refusing to block strikes is a bargain. Pick a lane.

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        8 months ago

        I agree that the word is appropriate, but it’s also problematic because it has legal definitions that are almost never met. Someone will inevitably argue with the use of the term, and the conversation will be completely derailed by a vocabulary debate

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          They can argue all they want. I really don’t care.

          The legal definitions of genocide are only difficult to meet because they were written by countries with their own histories of genocide. That’s why it’s so hard to prove.

          That’s not a standard we need to hold ourselves to.

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                  What’s absurd is holding the holocaust to such a standard that we cannot compare it to anything or learn anything from history.

                  It’s disrespectful to holocaust survivors, this shit I see posted here, especially to the ones saying never again now.

                  Don’t use the holocaust to make this genocide okay. That’s antisemitic.

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                    8 months ago

                    Technically correct is the best kind of correct

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              Out of curiosity, what is the actual limit for an acceptable quantity of genocide? Like, I’m trying to understand if there’s a hard number of murdered civilians that Isreal has to reach before we can make comparisons to the holocaust, or if it’s more just a vibes thing?

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              Ah yes, I guess this means a “small holocaust” is perfectly fine…

              I thought the survivors said NEVER AGAIN. The scale is irrelevant. Israel created one of the biggest manmade famine in histroy at an unprecedented speed. Why destroy all roads and hospitals and stop aid? I’ll let you answer that one.

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              8 months ago

              Israel is killing in Gaza at the speed of a large concentration camp at the peak of the Holocaust.