My all time favorites are:
The Incal - Moebious & Jodo
Before the Incal - Janjetov & Jodo
The Meta Barons - Giménez & Jodo
Fragments of the Encyclopedia of Dolphins - Prado
Nikopol Trilogy - Enki Bilal
The Techno Priests - Janjetov & Beltran & Jodo
Jeremiah - Herman
Megalex -Beltran & Jodo
What do you think about those and what are your favorites?
Ravian! It was a shame the adaption they did a few years ago was such a weird movie… As a child and now adult I pick up the Ravian series again each year for a week of binge reading. Laureline will always be my childhood love ❣️ nice to see someone liking the incal series, just bought the the three deluxe edition ^^
TIL that Valerian is called Ravian in dutch - interesting! What do you think about the new alternative coloration of The Incal? Which one did you get for yourself?
Fragments of the Encyclopedia of Dolphins - Prado
Oh wow, now WHAT is that…? oO
A collection of short stories, each story presents a certain point of social and technological development in the future of human society. Every story stands on it´s own but they all seem to be in the same timeline. Each story revolves around a different hypothetical point of development and concept of what humanity might develop into and tells about struggles and achievements of individuals and groups in the different scenarios. There is almost no action and a lot of interesting ideas to think about. He also did many other great comics in his distinct style. Two examples:
Thanks! It looks and sounds amazing!
For an English version, would you recommend reading it through “1984” magazine? Or if it’s not too wordy, I can read Spanish & French slowly.
It has parts that are more and parts that are less wordy. If my Spanish would be good enough I would for sure read the original version. I also like having all fragments together in one nice book. I don´t know much about 1984 magazine, just that it is comparable to Métal Hurlant. Are those old issues that had the first release of the single fragments still available?
Magazines like that are sometimes preserved digitally at archive.org. It’s not ideal of course, but I thought it might be a way for me to get a little taste of this work before I look further. Either way, I’ll track this one down in good time.
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Aquablue series, originally by Cailleteau and Vatine. I also like the later ones, but I feel the storytelling is simpler, for a younger audience.
Yoko Tsuno, by Leloup. Couldn’t get enough of the series as a kid.
Of course Valerian, and there also the earlier works.
I read a lot of Yoko Tsuno as a kid too :) In retrospect, the series was pretty ahead of it´s time by having not only a strong female but also asian protagonist, don´t you think?
Yes, totally agree. A female, asian, technician, pilot, motorcycle rider main protagonist. How cool is that, or was for the times it was published.
Plus the clear drawing style, especially of techy things.
I think I’ll have to look through the copies I own, and buy the ones missing from the series.
Ooh-lalala, nice! :/)
Now to be clear-- the origin of this community is based on my beloved r/banddessinee sub here. Meep!
I love everything about it, and as I say, I want our comments & work to belong to *US*, the users & members, the authors & creators, and -NOT- a corporation. Now if that finds you in similar ideation, then let’s go!
Well then, ahoy then, mateys; yarr!
It seems we got some work to do! For example, we’re going to need an avatar icon and some background art, for starters. What say ye, ye ol’ scurvy lot of sail-adjusters! EDIT: Fixed, for now!
Now to be clear-- the origin of this community is based on my beloved r/banddessinee sub here. Meep!
Bande dessinée was how I initially fell in love with comic books. As a child I collected a huge amount, mainly Lucky Luke, Asterix and Tintin. Later, when I was a teenager I discovered Moebius and the Jodoverse and man was I hooked! So I started to look deeper into the world of more mature and artsy franco-belgian comics.
I love everything about it, and as I say, I want our comments & work to belong to US, the users & members, the authors & creators, and -NOT- a corporation. Now if that finds you in similar ideation, then let’s go!
I fully agree - f reddit and big corporations in general!
Well then, ahoy then, mateys; yarr!
It seems we got some work to do! For example, we’re going to need an avatar icon and some background art, for starters. What say ye, ye ol’ scurvy lot of sail-adjusters!
I´d vote for a (nicely colored) Moebius drawing but I assume you would prefer something more classic like Tintin maybe?
I´d propose this one : http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/3521672499_2f1e02a1e2_o.jpeg
If only classic stuff goes, what about my personal role model:
Hahaha, I feel you on that last one! (and what a lovely Moebius piece)
The banner’s going to be the trickiest thing, but I have an idea for that. Now to fire up GIMP…
I’m not much a bédé fan, but I read the “The Meta Barons” a long time ago, and found it very interesting… If a bit too violent (or sometime crude) for my tastes.
My favorite series is certainly the Achilles Talon series. Which, granted, have sometimes more text than images on the page.
I’m not much a bédé fan, but I read the “The Meta Barons” a long time ago, and found it very interesting… If a bit too violent (or sometime crude) for my tastes.
Jodo stuff is often a bit over the top with the violence and cruelty, I agree.
My favorite series is certainly the Achilles Talon series. Which, granted, have sometimes more text than images on the page.
I did not know that one before!
Funny, I just randomly came across that series today. I’ll have to check out an album or two.
Btw, I’m trying to provide a diverse series of reviews in this community, so maybe one day you’ll find something else that sounds interesting.
I have no idea what it’s worth translated, but “Le Roi des Zotres”, “La Main du Serpent” and “L’archipel des Sanzunron” (in French) are some of my favorites. The hurricane of puns is a sight to behold.
The hurricane of puns is a sight to behold.
Oh darn, I’ll probably miss most of the humor, then. My French is barely reading level, altho I’m working on it…
Yeah, don’t try this one in french then. The comic is extremely loquacious (it’s a stylistic choice, which work very well for me), and even native French speakers often miss wordplays, or find the style difficult to understand (sentences can become quite convoluted for the sake of a pun).
To be honest, albums are fairly unequal : some of them are downright classics, some of them are quite forgettable.
If you want an idea of the stuff, I found this translation of one here, which should give you an idea of what the short strips ones look like. Even I remember this one being better in french.
Hey, thanks! I’m not usually a fan of the gag stuff, but this looks pretty fun.
I should be able to get a hold of Magnesia’s Treasure, so I’ll give that a read.
Almost forgot to mention-- my favorites list is long and complicated, but I hope to get it in to a single post one day. In the meantime, HERE are some of my very favorite artists who worked on my favorite series. (yes, and I’ll need to migrate that post over here, too)
Btw, I posted some new content today in the form of five mini-reviews. Hope you enjoy. ^^
Interesting list and I see you also like the work of Katsuhiro Otomo. I´m not into generic manga at all but Otomo will always be one of my favorite comic artists. Nobody can draw speed and kinetic energy like he can!
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world / @Nacktmull@feddit.de, I’m not sure what your main “FV” instance is, so I decided to comment here instead of messaging each of your name-sharing ID’s.
Anyway, I just wanted to say that I greatly appreciate your contributions, here. Having had to construct and populate the entire community with quality content has been a rather daunting task, and I’m truly grateful to you for stepping up, out of the blue (as we say in the States).
Also, just wanted to let you know that I’ve pinned this post, such that it’s the top thread visible in our little community. Furthermore, I used some of your art suggestions to create the new logo (Gaston) and banner (with one of the 26 being the Moebius art you shared). Thank you so much for helping me with that!
Lastly, your Starwatcher art was one of the most popular posts here, so… could we have more, please?
PLEASE-PLEASE-PLEASE-PLEASE-PLEASE-PLEASE-PLEASE-PLEASE-PLEASE-PLEASE-PLEASE-PLEASE?
…he said, offhandedly and startlingly casually. :P
Seriously, though-- I feel like there are probably a lot of great German (& Dutch?) comics that other audiences don’t know very well… yet. Could you possibly help by giving your opinions on some?
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Oh man, thanks for such a detailed answer! Sounds like a plan. ^^ Also, my best wishes to you, particularly as someone also struggling in my personal life. But it’s nice to know I’m not alone, here.
I read the first three Dune books long ago, and saw the 1984 movie & the 2000 series. Really loved the iconic Dune II & Dune 2000 video games, too. There’s even a cute ‘8-bit,’ scaled-down version here, playable online–> https://liquidream.itch.io/undune2
As for Jodo, I’ve meant to do a proper re-read of the three Incal series plus the various side-series, which include Technopriests, Metabarons, Castaki, and… do you know if anything else belongs with those?
But I certainly wouldn’t mind shining the spotlight on Jodo’s vast amount of other works. White Lama, for one, which helped me understand Buddhism to an extent.
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There is an unfinished series called “After the Incal” which has only the first volume by Moebius and Jodo. However, surprisingly it did not manage to pull me in at all, so I won´t recommend spending money on it but of course it won´t hurt to read it for completion.
Interesting. WP is telling me that After the Incal got rewritten as Final Incal. Works for me. Oh yes, and I remember Megalex, now. I have it placed in the same folder as the Incal-universe works, so I guess I’ll leave it like that for now.
Now, what is Castaka?! OH SHIT! IT SEEMS TO BE PART OF THE PRIME JODOVERSE! How could I miss that until now?! Thank you so much for pointing me to it my dude!
Haha, sure! IIRC, it does overlap with some of the existing Metabaron’s line, but features some new material, I think about their origins.
I would also like to check out the Borgia series he did with … Milo Manara :P
I read that series, and for me it got kind of gruesome & depressing after a while, which was maybe the point. Rich, powerful people being degenerate and cruel, I guess you could say, which unfortunately isn’t unique to just that era. :S
Trying to get into Enki/nikopol but it is so bleak and text heavy that I had a hard time sticking with it.
Yeah, the Nikopol Trilogy is pretty dystopian stuff. If it gives you a bad mood maybe read something else. What about “The Gardens of Aedena” by Moebius? I found it to be light and uplifting while still feeling deep and intense.
Thanks to a recommendation by @amazing2@lemm.ee , I’m now checking out “Dylan Dog,” and wow, I’m mighy impressed(!)
For some reason I thought it was going to be just a mediocre pulp detective series, but it’s really much more of a… metaphysical work, I guess is the word. Sort of like Milo Manara’s Giuseppe Bergman series, but less absurd and more focused.
I hope to do a proper review when I get a better feel for the overall work.
Just a fake comment here, in which I’m trying to bump this post up above the new “review index” post.
