Hi, I was wondering what the economics and related social factors are in this current controversy?
I’m not USian, so I’m not too familiar with things there. I know its being used as a political football, so to speak, but there must be material factors involved too right? I mean, I see some commentary here about the ‘political’ drama aspect, and people saying its “manufactured” or similar. But I’m not sure if they mean it’s not real (or vastly ‘overblown’ in terms of effect) or if they mean it is real, but caused by someone(s).
As far as I understand, human migration is (despite being against international labor law) treated as a commodity exchange, especially by richer countries. Like the US (and Europe) like to mess a place up (or bribe comprador rulers), because it consequentially provides them with exploitable labor, temporary or permanent.
I may be incorrect, but thats how it seems to me. So, if that is true, what are the material considerations for those states that are making a drama out of the Southern Border issues? I know that agricultural labor and domestic servents and porters are often from poorer countries where I am. Certain industries (hospitality, agriculture, construction, warehouse/factory) are reliant on such migrants. So how does this break down for the US, in terms of industries, and States interests?
Are they causing a shortage of commodity labor for the big coastal cities? Are they messing with the Academy (students)? Is the military affected? Is it more about servants for the wealthy?
I ask because I haven’t really seen a good analysis of this on these grounds, only on either moral or political grounds, from a USian yet. Thanks!
Ok, thanks.
Do the small bourgeoisie like immigration in the US? They tend to be against it in my country, especially in less urban areas, because they can rely on local (often familial) networks and being the only game in town for their labor, and need less of it in any case.
Given what you’ve mentioned, where does the outrage (I saw reported - maybe its untrue) come from when border states started moving migrants to cities? Just that it was messing with the ‘usual’ system of filtration or those states usual ‘sourcing’ of migrant workers, or they were the wrong kind of labor?
I’ve seen that Biden is, apparantly, wanting to ‘toughen’ the border (conditionally on passing other foriegn policy related budgets), is the ‘crisis’ simply a matter of those states wanting in on the public money tree that the Biden admin and backers have been enjoying with Ukraine?
Also, do you know or suspect if the ‘crisis’ relates in any way to the spats with Mexico (I think they recently nationalised an oil processing facility, and there’s been talk of re-writing the trade agreement), or in any way to the infamous intelligence agency directed drug trafficking business across the border?
I wonder also about the demographics of those moving north, usually its the case that people who migrate internationally (as opposed to internally displaced) are relatively well-off (in their home countries), because the very poorest can’t afford to move. Are they mostly from South/Central America, or is cheap air travel also adding people from other places (I’ve seen some claims of this, but I’m not sure whether to believe them)? Are the people coming from the South useful at all to the Dem’s usual backers?
Thanks for responding, I don’t mean to flood you with questions it just seems like a fairly big deal and the reporting and analysis around the issue just frames it in terms of a political dispute without mentioning why. Like, I understand the (low level) border conflict between Canada/US, because its about fishing. But this, I have no idea…