We know what happens with peaceful protests, elections, and foreign interference (and more foreign interference), so how can Palestine gain it’s freedom? Any positive ideas are welcome, because this situation is already a humanitarian crisis and is looking bleaker by the day.

Historical references are also valuable in this discussion, like slave revolts or the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, although hopefully in the case of Palestine a peaceful and successful outcome can be achieved, as opposed to some of the historical events above.

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    Human rights as in minorities like the LGBT and people of different faiths. Heck Israel has LGBT parades. Meanwhile, Palestine published a single flag design of its flag with LGBT themes on it and the majority of pro-Palestinians went nuts. Russia and North Korea have similar issues, and siding with them are a new and distasteful development considering their current situation.

    Do you have any recognizable links about the 24,000 people? I’m assuming you refer to non-retaliatory killings from before October 7th.

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      Oh wow Israel has parades folks, they’re the good guys! Who cares about the genocide or even the rampant racism in its own borders (Hello Ethiopian Jews having your child killed and birth rate dropped by 50%). They have parades, or at least when they’re not cancelling them because of death threats from Israelis.

      Also retaliatory killings? You mean when they retaliated against a lifetime of Israeli terrorism and murder?

      Honestly the fact people can come here today and use words like “retaliatory killings” to palm away 24,000 dead mostly children is so fucking vile. You’d think that sort of rhetoric would be stuck with Hitler, but hey here you are.

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        The fact the article mentions there even is an LGBT association in Israel is a part of what I’m talking about. If Palestine had its way, everyone could say goodbye to another nation with marriage equality. They (Palestine) have been violent far before there had been anything resembling Israelite brutality, and 24,000 people is a stretch if we subtract the war. You complain about the usage of “retaliatory killings” as a concept yet also bring that up if not also acknowledging Palestine is tactically founded on that right now, though I was only using the term in the concept that the current war more resembles a chain reaction than anything less.

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          We have no idea what Palestine’s way would look like because they’ve been oppressed for centuries and unable to develop in any environment but a war zone.

          For all we know they’d have been just like their neighbours in Jordan, where it’s far more tolerated than places like Iran.

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            Is their total allegiance to their neighbors not at least a small indicator their vision is the same as theirs? We can at least see what they’re like on social media. It’s not promising.