So the asshole who posted this claims after we die and go to heaven it’s going to be the same shit that we have right now?!
Somebody has to mine the gold the streets are paved with.
I almost spilled my coffee 🤣🤣🤣.
Coffee is a drug, so none of that in heaven
Technically it’s just the caffeine. So you could have decaf in heaven.
Oh gooddie 😒.
Well alright then, I’m out…
Not really into the gold esthetic anyway.
Huh? Jesus hung with hookers and made wine for fun
There is a singular authoritarian dictator. You may not disobey. The punishment for your first infraction is eternal torture.
But otherwise…yes. Getting to heaven is about winning, and you can’t be a winner without there being losers.
you can’t be a winner without there being losers
There’s no biblical reasoning why everyone can’t go to heaven, losers are not mandatory. In fact in Christianity, “Jesus died for your sins,” so supposedly you get a free pass as long as you aren’t a big piece of shit.
It’s the Jehovah’s witnesses that think there is limited space in heaven, it’s what motivates them to convert everyone. By converting so many unbelievers, they’ll rise up the ranks and get that heaven spot for themself. The people they converted? Doomed to hell, I suppose. A sacrifice to get them into heaven.
JWs are pretty messed up.
TIL that Watchtower Society runs christianity like a Ponzi scheme
its in the bible jesus works 9to5 as a janitor in a clinic, and god flips burgers and delivers pizza after working hours
Classless? Having almost everyone be forced to eternally worship one dude sounds like classes to me.
Also, not everyone get to go to heaven. Only the “worthy”.
And worthy is largely arbitrary and contradictory… So god is a fascist, apparently…
I think it’s more classless as in you don’t have to pick fighter or wizard… You can just put your points in whatever skills you want and build novel characters. 🤷
I remember hearing about Heaven when I was little and how all you would do, supposedly, is sing and praise the lord for the rest of eternity. It made me really uncomfortable. Why would I want all of my free will stripped away like that? That sounds like Hell!
This is the bad place.
Classless?!?! Haha, someone look up the heaven flow chart (yes really) for Mormons. 3 levels of heaven and outer darkness (hell). For those that make it to the top, congrats on being a god! You and your many wives will enjoy eternity as you crush the hopes and dreams of your own creation.
You mean Morons right?
Hah. It’s implied
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Not exclusive to Mormons. Devine comedy dictates different levels of heaven. Enoch also states levels of heaven.
To be honest the Divine Comedy is fanfiction and not canon
Granted but it is held in high regard by many popes, including the current.
Oh I was gonna say same thing!
Don’t forget that in Mormon only heaven, there are three ranks there! Also women swear to serve their husband’s.
So to be the highest rank you have to be a male priesthood holder rank 1 of celestial kingdom.
Many believe the early church was marxist (“had all things in common”, etc).
Or they just read what is said about Jesus in the bible? Marx didn’t invent the concept of helping the poor by sharing.
I mean, yeah probably. Jesus was pretty clearly a socialist, though I’m not studied enough in socialism or the bible to say which version of socialist he was.
Jesus was a communist (even if an utopian/idealist one)
Including their women. There are little hints. Paul seems worked up about permissive sex going around, the earliest Gospel has Jesus spend a surprisingly high amount of time, for a rabbi, alone with women. James and Cephus would need a motivation to keep the failing Jerusalem church going, Mary Magedlian seems to have made enemies where she is accused of being permissive (every conservative accusation is a confession), records of lots of children of James, and a cryptic stuff about how there would be no gender in the future and no gender before Jesus. The last line was uttered by a person who told people to unquestionably follow James.
History of early Christianity makes so much sense if you just treat it like any other cult. Sex, money, power. James and Cephus didn’t have money or power so what else could it be?
Gotta pay for your place in heaven of course.
But it’s okay because they made everyone else’s life a living hell. They deserve it.
/s
And also genderless
It’ll be just like North Korea!
To them, communism isn’t demonstrably attainable, so it makes sense that that type of universal resource and service availability is fantastical.
Popular Christian website goes out of its way to tell people that they will not be getting mansions in heaven, but a giant common area instead. One of the lesser mistranslations, but still an interesting one
I mean, I get it. But what exactly is being produced in heaven such that the workers own the means of its production?
St. Thomas Aquinas taught that in the natural law all property was part of the commons and that only human law changed this.
I think the major Christian objection to communism is the materialist dialectic.
Communism isn’t realistic, you see. Only our realistic and nonfictional god can make something like that and only if you’re dead first. Now, get back to work!
If communism isn’t realistic, then why do I live in a community? Checkmate theists!
If communism isn’t realistic, then why do I live in a community? Checkmate theists!
Arguably, in heaven all resources are ready and abundant, while on earth everything takes time and effort.
So yeah, if you can just pick a freshly baked pizza from the next tree anytime, why would you need any incentive to work on anything?
On the other hand, on earth, pizzas take time and resources to make. Hence if one person makes pizza, that person may not want to give it to people who simply choose to do nothing all day.
Concluding, this comparison does not really work.
I agree: it’s stupid of them to criticize communism, because communism is precisely as authoritarian a regime as their religious utopia.
Every Communist that isn’t authoritarian would like to disagree with you. Anarchists are not Marxist-Lenninists for example
It doesn’t really matter—it’s inherent to the system. It’s built on a violent overthrow of the current system, followed by a single-party “transitional” government that never actually transitions and violently suppressed all opposition. Every communist movement that has ever taken over a nation state has devolved into an authoritarian dictatorship. Communists-lite like to call that a big, but it’s pretty clear to me and most other people that it’s a feature.
How about Chile, for example? They had a left-wing front consisting of socialists and communists that came to power without any violence through a purely democratic process, was fairly popular with electorate, and then got forcefully overthrown by CIA-backed military junta in 1973 (cause surprise-surprise: a socialist/communist state in South America was not in US’s interests, and it was a cold war era).
There is nothing inherent about transitional government or even violent overthrow of a current system, communism in its purest form is only about creating the economy that distributes wealth according to people’s needs. It doesn’t automatically describe the means to get there, and what was conducted in 20th century was an attempt to implement one of the ways mapped by 19th-20th century thinkers.
Some communists will say the general direction was right, but the implementation wrong; some others will say the approach itself was wrong and we need to start building communist society in an entirely different way. Both will be communists.
