• withabeard@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Health insurance is HOW MUCH!

    And there are Brits here saying how great private care is and how much they want it… fucking turkeys to christmas.

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      11 months ago

      People who push for private healthcare are either the type that could afford it or are the sheep following them.

      And the thing is, private healthcare is great for those who can afford it. Both specialists and PCPs are readily available for appointments in the US, and the quality of care is good!.. You’ll just end up bankrupt if your employer doesn’t provide good insurance.

      It’s fucked up, and it’s not equitable. But I understand why it’s appealing to the wealthy.

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        Both specialists and PCPs are readily available for appointments in the US

        Where are you going? I usually have to schedule my appointments at least three months out, or there is no availability. My girlfriend had to wait a year and a half to see her OBGYN

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        Both specialists and PCPs are readily available for appointments in the US, and the quality of care is good!

        My wife and I have high incomes and good insurance and she’s currently waiting 2 months for a specialist.

        The system is not good by any metric.

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          No no no that’s only supposed to happen with universal healthcare! That only happens with socialism! Sean Hannity said so! Our system Is The Best On Earth!™

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      11 months ago

      There’s a reason why literally no other country in the world is imitating the US healthcare insurance system.

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            11 months ago

            Putin had a hand in the Brits leaving the EU and the election of Trump in the US - both massive wins for Putin.

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              I’m sure he’s had a hand in a lot of things. Trolls are very cheap in Russia.

              But it doesn’t absolve anyone of their responsibility now, and it won’t in the future.

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          11 months ago

          Britain has universal healthcare with zero deductible and zero co-pays. Not even on the same planet.

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            11 months ago

            Sadly, only somewhat true nowadays.

            There are plenty of parts of healthcare that are privatised and pay only. Some of this paid for by the NHS and the current government are attacking the “costs” of that. Especially as the treatments are often more expensive when done privately than they were on the NHS. Dental and optical treatment are privatised now. Much of our ambulance and rescue service are now private or voluntary. We’re seeing ever increasing costs for the ambulance services, while watching wait times skyrocket. Given private ambulance firms are measured on a few KPIs, they are targeting those over general care. Many surgeries that used to be covered (such a cleft lip) by the NHS are now regarded as cosmetic and come with insurance deductibles or are not even covered by insurance.

            Many industries, such as software development, are offering private cover as a workplace bonus. What that means in reality is when I come off my motorbike, the expensive emergency surgery I need will be covered by an NHS surgeon. The insurance company will then “elect” to pay for me to be moved to a comfortable hotel/hospital where I can stay in comfort. That comfort is what I’ll be paying my insurance for, not the actual surgery.

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              Even if there are a few things now considered “cosmetic” in the UK, it’s still far, far from anything you’d experience in the US. And that’s where all the medical debt comes in.

              Not only do you have to struggle with the health issues, often through no fault of your own, you also have to struggle through financial hardship on top of that. It’s truly an awful system.

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      11 months ago

      Haven’t heard of that phrase but it’s an apt analogy for my fellow Brits. Same with Brexit. Wasn’t till afterwards did they realize that what they voted for and were upset. Heaven forbid you listen to those warning you about it.