• Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    steal an entire country

    the people who got their country stolen write a kids book about it

    steal the books too

    oh come on this shit reads like a fucking greentext

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      Ya the shit muslims did to Pagans is horrific. So glad Israel is inflicting it on them ☺️

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    This whole propaganda campaign is really damaging to the Jewish community at large over the long term. Antisemitism is a very real problem with horrible consequences, as history shows. Equating anti-colonialism, anti-apartheid, anti-genocide, pro-palistinian, etc, speech with antisemitic speech undermines the credibility of organizations (the ADL), commentators, and victims of antisemitic attacks when they actually occur. Additionally, there is a very real possibility that it could push people towards actually hateful ideologies. “They lied about that. Maybe they lied about this, too.”

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        It goes beyond that. Jewish is both a faith and ethnicity, so even those that aren’t religious will face hatred from this.

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          I don’t believe that Jewish is an ethnicity. That’s like saying Catholics are an ethnicity. Judaism is just a religion. Any ethnicity can practice it. Same with any other religion.

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            That’s factually incorrect. There is a Jewish ethnicity and a Jewish faith. A person can be one, the other, or both.

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              Zionists have pushed a thesis that there is a Jewish ethnicity but there is not one. There are multiple ethnicities where many if not most members are Jewish but to say a Jew from Eastern Europe and a Jew from Ethiopia are the same ethnicity is patently absurd if the word “ethnicity” is used consistently with how it’s otherwise used for any other “ethnic” group. Also, literally anyone can convert to Judaism and they are then 100% Jewish as are their progeny. You can’t just change your ethnicity like that.

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              Right but that’s not the same. There isn’t one Jewish ethnicity. The Ashkenazi, Beta Israel and Sephardic are all separate Jewish communities and ethnicities

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                  Yes, related. Not one ethnicity, but one of many because they each practice their religion slightly differently and have their own uniqueness on their cultures and their origins and their language.

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              That’s not my intention. My main issue with that comment is that Jewish can’t be both a religion and an ethnicity. Thats the same vibe as Muslims is a faith and an ethnicity. I cannot just look at someone random and say they are Muslim or Jewish.

              Honestly I maybe terribly wrong on this and I do appreciate everyone in this thread being chill. My main point is that I don’t believe in looking at someone and immediately telling where they are from.

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                  I don’t have an issue with it but I don’t want to generalise a type of person based on their religion. As you asked if someone is following Hinduism, I wouldn’t immediately think of someone from the Indian subcontinent same as someone who is Muslim or Christian or Jewish.

                  I do recognise that some religions have more predominant ethnic followers and they are from specific regions of the world, but it’s not always the case I don’t think.

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                Well you just shouldn’t do that anyway. But many Jewish people today are reformist and non-practicing. Meaning their ethnicity is what makes them Jewish. You don’t have to assume anyone’s ethnicity.

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                  Well you just shouldn’t do that anyway.

                  I know and I don’t want to. I realise I didn’t put my opinion on this as clearly as I should have been at the start.

                  Meaning their ethnicity is what makes them Jewish.

                  Yes I understand your point and yes absolutely I don’t have to assume anyones ethnicity based on their religion. I don’t believe in that.

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            There’s such a thing as an “ethnoreligious group”, even if a lot of Jews are practicing their cultural history is entwined in a religious tradition. Even totally atheist Jews usually observe some religious practices for cultural reasons.

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              Yes I agree with you on that. I should have been clearer when I commented on it. I’m an atheist and I still have some traditions that I follow like Christmas and Easter but without the Christianity.

              I did reply earlier which more or less clarifies the point I’m trying to make here: https://hexbear.net/comment/4360621

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                Yeah but most of those subgroups of Jewish people can usually trace their lineage back at least somewhat reliably to the Jewish diaspora.

                Also most sects of Judaism aren’t evangelical and don’t actively seek out new adherents, only practicing within the bounds of their own community even if they do occasionally accept converts (and most converts are people who marry into the faith). Christianity isn’t consider ethnoreligious cuz Christianity actively went out and sought new adherents in a variety of cultures.

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                  No, I get that, but that’s the thing, they spread out and adopted their own take on Judaism like the Sephradic Jews took Spanish and Latin words in their Hebrew language.

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      They know that and they’re betting on being able to complete the ethnic cleansing and have it completely normalized by the west. Every neoliberal politician in the world is trying their hardest to shut down opposition because they also want to do the same to their own “undesirables”.

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        I can’t disagree with that at all. Beyond the obvious concern for others, my concern about this false campaign also includes myself. It’s not dissimilar to the Jussie Smollett situation in the ways it will be used to deny injustices that have occurred. I’m not Jewish, but I am a POC in the US.

        For example, the ADL does not just call out hatred against the Jewish community but other marginalized groups as well. The far right has been attacking the organization’s credibility since its inception. They have now decreased or destroyed their credibility with those on the center-right and left by equating criticism of Israel with antisemitism. This includes myself. When they speak out about any actual hate, regardless of the target, it will now fall on deaf ears.

        I’m sure I’m preaching to the choir, but I’m frustrated that I don’t see a way that this doesn’t lead to more people espousing more extreme-right ideology.

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        I wasn’t aware of that, thank you for that. The people of this world never fail to disappoint.

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      Zionism is totally removed from Judaism. It’s a settler colonial project of the west. They don’t give a fuck about the Jewish people in fact they hate them. But virtue signaling to spread colonization in the Middle East is still a win. So no nothing they do will be in the interest of Jewish people because it never was intended to.

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          the result is your average person isn’t going to understand that distinction and just stop caring about anti semitism

          They don’t give a fuck about the Jewish people in fact they hate them.

          Also ham fistedly attempting to lie to the media and getting caught every 12 hours isn’t really diminishing any stereotypes

          Are you implying they’re proving Jewish stereotypes to be correct and that’s the problem? Not the stereotypes to begin with

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      This whole propaganda campaign is really damaging to the Jewish community at large over the long term.

      That’s one of the critical doctrines of Zionism. They want to make the rest of the world unsafe for Jews. They want Occupied Palestine Israel to be perceived as the only safe space for Jews. It provides cover for their ongoing genocide against the indigenous population.

      Zionism and antisemitism are like:

      solidarity

      But both the arms are extremely white.

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      Been saying for a while they should really be careful because already seeing the sentiment “they call literally everything they don’t like anti semitism, who cares about anti semitism”

      Literal boy who cried wolf situation. People use the term all the time I think a lot of them forget there was actually a wolf in that story that benefitted from the Shepard delegitimizing the threat of him.

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      I recently read a report about antisemitic incidents published by my country’s Jewish community. The vast majority of incidents were justified anger over the zionist occupation of Palestine that was being misdirected towards Jews and Jewish institutions who have nothing to do with the zionist entity.

      Zionists are not friends of Jews. They are not making Jews safe, they are campaigning for people to think of Jews as genocidal fascists. I wouldn’t be surprised if 80% of antisemitism globally would disappear if the occupation and apartheid regime was ended.

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      Wait are you implying committing a genocide might turn people against your culture?

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        What? First, I’m not Jewish. Second, Jewish people, like any group, are not a monolith. I’m stating that the Israeli government and others equating resistance to the genocide of Palestinians to antisemitism will have dire consequences for the global Jewish population and others.

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    Ethnically cleansing the library because I’m afraid my apartheid state sucks so bad at propaganda that people might be convinced we’re genociding the native populationincorrect-suspicion

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    Rightoids: “We support free speech…but any opinion that differs from our’s is indoctrination and is therefore too offensive to be spoken.”

    They’re going to bring back blasphemy laws, and ‘being a leftist’ will be considered blasphemy.

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    Won’t the library eventually just like, charge them the cost of the books and buy new copies to loan out?

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      a lot of libraries don’t do late fines, but they will charge them the fee. which is to say, they have no way of policing that, so the most they can really do is just block them from checking any more books out.

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    I like how villainous this guy looks. The slick-backed hair, the goatee, the cold dead eyes. It’s almost too on-the-nose

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        i dont understand how people live with super hot super bright lights. Gimme like 2500-2700K like 60W equivalent lights and an ultra cozy room. I don’t understand apartments with psychological warfare lighting.

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          I think the room plays a factor. I like more white/blue in the kitchen, bathroom, and closet for visibility and “color accuracy” but prefer more red light in the living room, bedroom, and other areas for relaxing.

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      @DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube

      Uh wtf? No dude, it’s the context of the image and the act together that make him look like a dead eyed genocidal monster. It has literally nothing to do with him being Jewish (I don’t even know from the context of this post if he is Jewish or not, there are tons of Christian Zionists and non-Jewish supporters of Zionism in general. Making that assumption/assuming Judaism is equivocal with Zionism is ACTUALLY anti-Semitic).

      Also our mod logs are public, this means that if you get mod action taken against you, and also if you make asinine reports like this you nor we have any presumption of privacy. You are free to make your reports public all the same that we are.

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    Ah yes, “checks out books indefinitely”, or as it’s actually called, “theft”. The police are getting called for conspiracy to commit theft when?

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    Lol their kid’s gonna find the book lying around somewhere at home, read it, and hate Israel. Reactionaries spend so much time controlling other kids that they forget about their own >:)

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    Honestly a pretty great summation of the whole conflict to go to a place that loans out resources for free for the benefit of all and then take them, say they’re yours rightfully and then pat yourself on the back for how brave and tough you are for literally stealing from children.