• GiddyGap
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    Not exactly a rave review of the American educational system.

    No wonder European countries don’t accept US high school diplomas as sufficient for acceptance into a college or university.

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      No wonder European countries don’t accept US high school diplomas as sufficient for acceptance into a college or university.

      1. Yes, they do. I have been to two.

      2. At least in my country, the highschools are not exactly good. Many students get ~30% attendance. On top of that, there aren’t enough highschool slots for students, so poorer performing students can’t go to highschool or have to pay for private school.

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        Yes, they do. I have been to two.

        There may be some countries. But I know the Scandinavian countries will not accept US diplomas without the student passing extra testing that others don’t have to go through.

        It’s possible that’s for a full program. You may be able to take individual classes or certs with a US diploma.

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          There may be some countries.

          I’ve never encountered any country that didn’t accept US diplomas, or rather treated them any different than any other non-EU diploma.

          It’s possible that’s for a full program.

          I am talking about full bachelor’s programs.

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            I’ve never encountered any country that didn’t accept US diplomas, or rather treated them any different than any other non-EU diploma.

            One example is Denmark where a US highschool diploma is only considered under quota 2, which means you have to have other merits than just the highschool diploma. It could be additional testing and relevant work experience.

            Diplomas from most other countries are considered under quota 1, which looks at the diploma only.

            There are many other countries with similar rules.

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              One example is Denmark where a US highschool diploma is only considered under quota 2

              Do you have a source because from here I see

              Which doesn’t seem too different from other countries

              which means you have to have other merits than just the highschool diploma. It could be additional testing and relevant work experience.

              I guess that is met by the AP requirements, but it seems like wherever they can set more strict standards they try to, including with EU countries.

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                This is the source (in Danish): https://ufm.dk/uddannelse/anerkendelse-og-dokumentation/guide-til-anerkendelse/til-udlandet/valg-af-gymnasieskole-i-udlandet

                Maybe Google translate will help you.

                Amerikansk high school-eksamen

                En amerikansk high school-eksamen vurderes kun i kvote 2.

                Nogle IB-skoler, som også er amerikansk akkrediterede, det vil sige anerkendte som amerikanske skoler, tilbyder et amerikansk High School Diploma som alternativ til en ikke fuldt gennemført IB-eksamen. Vær da særligt opmærksom på, om eksamensforløbet opfylder de krav til en amerikansk high school eksamen, som er beskrevet i Eksamenshåndbogen.

                Krav om 3 AP-eksaminer

                Der kræves 3 AP-eksaminer aflagt ved College Board og bestået med mindst karakteren 3, for at den amerikanske high school-eksamen kan give adgang til universitetsuddannelser. For at opfylde kravet om AP-eksaminer kræves desuden, at AP-eksaminer er aflagt inden for minimum 3 forskellige fagområder. Eksempelvis vil AP-eksamen i fagene US Government, Physics og Calculus AB være inden for 3 forskellige fagområder, mens AP-eksamen i fagene Physics, Calculus AB og Calculus BC kun dækker over 2 forskellige fagområder.

                Et High School Graduation Diploma uden disse 3 studieforberedende og beståede Advanced Placement Tests giver adgang til erhvervskademi- og professionsbacheloruddannelser samt kunstneriske bacheloruddannelser. En sådan eksamen kan ved supplering blive adgangsgivende til universitetsuddannelser. Denne supplering bør ske i samråd med det uddannelsessted, hvor man ønsker optagelse, så man samtidig kan få at vide, om man opfylder eventuelle specifikke adgangskrav.

                Det er som altid uddannelsesstedet, der afgør, om den enkelte kan optages.

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                  Okay, so roughly the same as what I posted. Yeah I suppose it is quota 2, but as I said, it doesn’t seem much different than many other countries. It’s certainly not saying the US highschool diploma is exceptionally bad. Especially given how common AP classes are.

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                    Well, it says what I initially said. That a regular US highschool diploma is not acceptable as a standalone document to get you accepted. You have to do extra and even AP classes won’t get you out of having to go through quota 2. And that’s really a reflection of a US highschool being an inferior education in their eyes.