I’ve been speaking with other more informed communists and they’ve told me that none actually exist. Is this true?

China, Laos, and Vietnam: now notoriously capitalists. Workers work 12+ hours with no protection in horrible factory conditions. Suicide rates are so high that suicide nets are installed. The air is so polluted millions die from lung cancer, especially factory workers w/out basic masks. Corporations dominate

North Korea: Undemocratically ruled by the Kim dynasty. Jong un indulges lavishly at the expense of his citizens, ordering millions in fine wine and trips from Denis Rodman. They might be the most socialist though, as Juche seems to otherwise be democratic.

Cuba: Sanctions have taken a massive toll, but even taking that into account the country still has its own problems. They have massive food shortages and inventory probs and aren’t self sufficient after 60+ years. Why couldn’t they’ve use machinery imported from the Soviet Union to develop their agriculture and fishery? The Soviets supported them heavily. They seem to be incredibly mismanaged or corrupt

  • anarchost
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    1 year ago

    “debunked”?

    Okay… Then show me where it was debunked. And make sure you only reference sources that you would trust if I use them of a similar caliber.

    • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      Okay… Then show me where it was debunked. And make sure you only reference sources that you would trust if I use them of a similar caliber.

      Citing the CIA, an organization dedicated to destroying all communist projects since it was created, I feel debunks your korean thread immediately (due to it being the only source you provided besides one with no sources of its own)

      Show any evidence for the Stalin ‘kid wife’ one, primary sources please. I need you to provide your proof first.

      thats literally the only things you have in this thread.

      • anarchost
        11·
        1 year ago

        A common conspiracy theorist tactic is confusing claims with evidence. They think that they can debunk things by simply making more claims about them.

        That’s what you’re doing. If the document has been debunked, it must be debunked on its own terms.

        Otherwise, you are saying the exact same thing as the Nazi who insists that the CIA cannot be trusted because it is run by Jews, and Jews are known to be tricksters since the beginning of time. Do better than the Nazis.

        If you can.

        • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          A common conspiracy theorist tactic is confusing claims with evidence. They think that they can debunk things by simply making more claims about them.

          Literally what you’ve done the whole thread. Give me a non CIA source.

          That’s what you’re doing. If the document has been debunked, it must be debunked on its own terms.

          Controlled by a CIA organization dead set on lying about communism, its debunked on everyones terms.

          Otherwise, you are saying the exact same thing as the Nazi who insists that the CIA cannot be trusted because it is run by Jews, and Jews are known to be tricksters since the beginning of time. Do better than the Nazis.

          You must have an ideology made of glass if you react to everything with screaming that they’re anti-semetic for doing the normal action of verifying sources

          if you are so superior, manage to find an actual source.

          God why am I arguing with this ideological child?