I’ve been speaking with other more informed communists and they’ve told me that none actually exist. Is this true?

China, Laos, and Vietnam: now notoriously capitalists. Workers work 12+ hours with no protection in horrible factory conditions. Suicide rates are so high that suicide nets are installed. The air is so polluted millions die from lung cancer, especially factory workers w/out basic masks. Corporations dominate

North Korea: Undemocratically ruled by the Kim dynasty. Jong un indulges lavishly at the expense of his citizens, ordering millions in fine wine and trips from Denis Rodman. They might be the most socialist though, as Juche seems to otherwise be democratic.

Cuba: Sanctions have taken a massive toll, but even taking that into account the country still has its own problems. They have massive food shortages and inventory probs and aren’t self sufficient after 60+ years. Why couldn’t they’ve use machinery imported from the Soviet Union to develop their agriculture and fishery? The Soviets supported them heavily. They seem to be incredibly mismanaged or corrupt

  • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    1 year ago

    https://web.archive.org/web/20170906180510/http://www.internationallawbureau.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Ten-Great-Principles-of-the-Establishment-of-the-Unitary-ideology.pdf

    https://www.ned.org/2018-democracy-award/2018-democracy-award-honoree-citizens-alliance-for-north-korean-human-rights-nkhr/

    you realize that second link is from an article funded by the fucking NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR DEMOCRACY

    you literally referenced the CIA front for false flag operations and fake organizations

    Im fucking giddy are you this stupid on accident or born with a badge?

    THE FUCKING NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR DEMOCRACY

    eheheheheheheheeeeeeeeeee oh my god this is so fuckin easy

      • CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        Rightful criticism of a known CIA front org is the same thing as Nazi persecution of Jewish people is one hell of a take

        Seriously, get a fuckin grip

          • CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            The only difference is that they call it removed globalism, and you call it bourgeois westerners.

            Yeah that’s kinda the fundamental crux of the inherent difference between those groups you dumb fuck lmao, do you even read what you’re typing

            “Checking sources is Nazism actually” lmao you clueless child, get a grip and stay in school

          • Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]@hexbear.netEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            Are you denying the existence of the 10 principles?

            Yes, I am.

            If you are not, are you complaining about the translation?

            Also yes.

            So I tried to find a different translation. I spent about 10 minutes on google looking for a different translation or at the very least more context about these alleged “10 principles”. It seems like there is only one translation in existence, which I find to be very odd. The text as you’ve presented it is not long nor particularly difficult, so it shouldn’t be difficult to translate. I would assume, then, that more than one person would have produced a translation and posted it to the internet, at least if the original korean text were widely available. And if these “10 principles” were official dprk policy, surely the korean text would be easily found.

            So why can I only find one translation? Maybe you can help me out here. Can you find another translation for me please? I’ll also accept the original text in korean if that’s easier.

            • Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]@hexbear.netEnglish
              1·
              1 year ago

              Hey @anarchost@lemm.ee, let’s keep the conversation public, buddy. I’ve copied your dm to me below:

              That’s a great stance to take! After all, the 10 principles are so ridiculous that if they were true, you’d have to condemn them outright, correct?

              Just give me the original text in korean or a different translation of them. Please?

          • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            Your belief in Horseshoe theory is only something a stupid ass liberal could. You aren’t anything but a brainless libshit. Get yourself a single original thought and not one funded by the CIA, then I’ll deign to give two shits about anything you say.

              • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                1·
                1 year ago

                “youre a right winger because i said so” Okay buddy, you’re such a good kid, now go play with your friends.

                I would love it if you adopted left-wing beliefs, rather than campism, and I would love it if you stopped denying the anti-LGBT agendas of the countries you have been taught to support. I hope you break out of the cult, though!

                Oh baby you’ve been only proporting State department bull and the literal CIA, you seem to be fully incapable of research!

                I hope you break out of your programming, liberal! I’m right here for when you apologize for your US party line opinions.

                  • CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
                    1·
                    1 year ago

                    Nazis and pro Israel reactionaries say the exact same thing using the exact same logic as you.

                    Nazis and pro Israel reactionaries don’t criticize the CIA and its front orgs, you’re literally a dumb fuck who doesn’t know how to differentiate between disparate ideologies

                    Where the fuck do you get off accusing others of being Nazis while you defend one of the primary funders of international neo-nazism, post hog you worm

                  • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                    1·
                    1 year ago

                    Nazis and pro Israel reactionaries say the exact same thing using the exact same logic as you. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s a duck.

                    the context what matters, not the argument. I’d like to point out that casting all your enemies as ‘nazis’ doesn’t really paint you in a good light either. I understand you’re going for shock value, but I don’t think you know I just don’t care due to how stupid it is.

                    What actual left-wing ideals do you support, or is it just all labels with you?

                    I’d like to list them, but then you’d go on some tirade to derail the convo, so im not going to give them to you.