They have the right to defend themselves against the families of journalists… I guess? Super dangerous people, especially the little kids of course.
/s just to be sure
It IS dangerous to them!
Genocide thrives best in silence
Remember, as their own spokesperson constantly repeats, the IDF only hits “military targets”…
The news came hours after Axios reported that Secretary Antony Blinken told U.S. Jewish leaders he asked Qatar to “turn down the volume on Al Jazeera’s coverage” of the Israeli genocidal campaign in the Gaza Strip, accusing the network of being “anti-Israel.”
Well this will certainly make them more enamored of Israel. Some smart psychology there.
Extremely disappointing statement from Blinken, we shouldn’t be interfering with foreign news networks accurately reporting on atrocities.
How do you know that their reporting is accurate?
Exactly, Al Jazeera is owned by the Qatari royal family, guess where the heads of Hammas have been hiding? Qatar. So there’s no question Al Jazeera is a propaganda outlet at all.
However, still doesn’t excuse blowing up media representatives, even propagandists.
reverse psychology only works on toddlers, when it comes to second guessing things. “you don’t actually like those carrots, do you?! and those PEAS. BLECK!”
even on toddlers… you’re lucky if it’s 50/50 that it works. You really should just learn to not over cook the vedgies
Here’s another source for this story.
This tells us all about the Israeli definition of “military target” used by the Israeli Spokesperson in their press conferences when he says they only bombed “military targets”.
The sleazespeak of the Russians when it comes to Ukraine was disgusting, and the Israelis manage to be even worse, by a significant margin.
“Military target” must mean things that might harm their military, which includes the truth.
Serious question: What are the chances that the family is being targeted versus just being in a building they happened to bomb along with so many others? The article doesn’t address that, and it’s hard for me to believe that Israel would even know where this guy’s family was. I would think if their intelligence was that good, then they should be able to locate some of the hostages, right? Just for context, I think both sides suck and don’t care to hear any vitriol from either side. I’m really only interested in discussing if there is any evidence this was a targeted attack vs happenstance.
i think the implication is not that the reporter’s family was targeted, but that israel is not taking civilian casualties serious.
The embarassing part here is Blinken telling a news agency to tone down their coverage, even though the families of employees are being murdered.
yes, Blinken made his comment before the family died. That shouldn’t really change how fucked up this is.
The article very clearly accused Israel of targeting his family.
Yeah, but there’s a difference between an article saying something, and something being true. This isn’t exactly an unbiased source.
Yes of course and I’m posting on that article to question the claims it’s making. OP stated that the implication was not that the family was targeted but if you read the article it very clearly is. I want to know if there are any supporting facts because it seems unlikely to me.
I think most of the folks posting here read it as fact that Israel specifically targeted this guy family to scare others for reporting against Israel. It’s like “see!?, I told’ya !”
Did you even open the article? Just read the first paragraph.
Today, Al-Jazeera Bureau Chief Wael El-Dahdouh was reporting live in Gaza when an Israeli airstrike killed his wife and two children. Now, other journalists also fear their families could be targeted solely for them doing their job.
Have you even read my post?
It’s not about whether guy’s family died at all but wether his family was specifically targeted and wither the motive was to scare jurnalists.You said “most people here read it as fact that Israel tarteted his family” I’m saying well yeah the article stated it as fact that they targeted his family I just want to know if that is likely or not because to me it seems far fetched.
Yeah, that’s what I’m saying. It makes less sense they specifically targeted random journalist family than the version that his family was killed by being at the place that was shelled. It sad nevertheless, though.
I think it’s a very fair question. I find it hard to believe they bombed a building/area for a single journalist’s family. Especially if the family was in the area that Israel said to evacuate, which would raise questions on why the reporter thought leaving his family in an area explicitly labeled as dangerous was a good idea…
Pretty much zero. Also last thing Israel needs is another bad publicity ATM when the war crime accusation is hanging in the air. They would have to be plain dumps and geniuses at the same time. The guy will now report 10x more things against Israel then before and all media around the world will copy paste this article without veryficatiom to get readers. Shocking news are best for making money after all.
Ignoring the war, bombing, murder, politics, etc… Who the fuck is Blinken to tell the news how to report the news?
I’m sure this is very accurate reporting from mondoweiss.net. C’mon, I’m entirely against Israel but there’s no reason to believe that this one family in particular was targeted for any reason other than being Arab.
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It’s interesting that this fact check website heavily leans on what the ADL says. The ADL is highly problematic, and definitely biased against anything pro-Palestinian, so not sure what to make of this report.
I linked the wiki for the news site. It was founded by Pro-Palestinian Jews (Yes, they exist). All news is biased. You can decide for yourself if it’s factual.
Yeah, reading through the ADL reasoning, one of the articles they use to justify its accusation that Mondoweiss is antisemitic is actually discussing how ultra rightwing and ultra religious some of the recently elected candidates are, and to whom Netanyahu was trying to work closely with.
“Another story, Yes ‘Jewish Power’ party is fascistic, but its rise was inevitable is also very negative toward Israeli Jews.”
So an article discussing the election of 6 problematically hard right, ultra religios, Israeli Zionists, and their histories, beliefs and background, in ADL’s eyes is a negative anti-semitic article on all Israelis Jews?
That’s a very long bow to stretch.
You don’t think I checked it already. Mediabiasfactcheck labels it anti-Semitic, when it was literally founded by two Jews. Source. Stop dismissing sources just because you don’t like the facts they’re reporting. I like to believe people have media literacy, and can check sources themselves. They don’t need your “help.”
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Mediabiasfactcheck exists in a capitalist/corporate system. It is in their interest to not rock the boat or they get censored. Source
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Since you made the claim, the burden of proof is on you to find another source you deem acceptable.
Since you made the claim, the burden of proof is on you to find another source you deem acceptable.
That’s not how it works. Like, not at all. Not even close.
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Best to see it on Aljazeera. This happened while he was covering a story.
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Oh come off it. You’re all up and down these posts repeating lies about Hamas using human shields or how driving the civilians out of their homes in mass does not constitute ethnic cleansing.
Btw here’s the actual definition of “ethnic cleansing”
the mass expulsion or killing of members of an unwanted ethnic or religious group in a society.
You argued with me that it’s totally legit that the IDF isn’t letting journalists verify footage of supposed Hamas atrocities but the IDF is cool with showing that footage to journalists in a private setting where they’re not allowed to record anything.
You whine constantly that Al Jazeera isn’t legitimate but you haven’t posted a single source to debunk any of their reporting.
Post some sources of your own or sit down
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We didn’t argue that
Israel has already been caught lying about Oct 7th. I was pointing out that not releasing the video or allowing it to be recorded means that no one can verify if the footage is legit. You keep insisting “they reviewed it”. I don’t know what you think you were arguing but you were in fact arguing that it is fine that Israel is not allowing journalists to verify evidence (or that a 3rd party had actually already verified it).
Screenshots I'm hiding in a spoiler because they are large
What you were mad about is not being able to watch the deaths yourself
I made a dumb joke about the snyder cut and you interpreted it in the least charitable way insisting that I personally want to watch the footage to celebrate. Don’t be an asshole
This tautology allows accusations of antisemitism to be weaponized, particularly against people who speak up about Palestinian rights — sometimes in ridiculous ways. Source
Whatever their post history is, I honestly don’t care. Israel killed a journalist’s family and that’s a cold fact.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/25/al-jazeera-journalist-family-killed-wael-al-dahdouh
Not to say it’s not true- but I’d wait a few days till we have more info before saying it absolutely did happen- see the hospital or church bombings for example.
Is it anti Semetic for Palestinians to have the right to self determination? Asking seriously.
I don’t see the correlation so I don’t understand the quiestion. Are Palestinians not allowed to self determine themselves in their Gaza strip without ideology that would affect basic humans rights of others aside from Hammas influence? Please elaborate.
Just like the Jewish people have the right to “self determination”, do Palestinians as a nation have the same right to self determination?
Yeah can’t they do it without affecring anyone’s basic human’s rights ?
Whose rights would be ruined if palestinians as a people had the right to self determination?
I don’t know I was asking the question if they can do it. Because i didn’t get answer to my question here about whether they are they allowed to do it or not .
Are you asking if it’s doable to have self determination and not kill anyone?
Unfortunately so is Bibi. He has to stop having wine and cheese with Trump et al to start looking a bit less facist and horrific at this point.
What? Netaniyahu must be dismissed from politics after the acute phase of the fighting ends. That’s it.
Ideally we would see him in the Hague being tried for war crimes.
They need to kick him to the moon along with his supporters.
And rename that Trump settlement after Zelenskyy.
I made the effort to check both your comment and OPs comments and I think you should perhaps sit down and self reflect.
Oh nice, and you are an ally of genocide
