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Cake day: December 31st, 2023

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  • Hey, let’s give OP the benefit of the doubt. We cannot pretend to know what They feel, so let’s just assume these pronouns really make Them happy in the same way as she/they for me. Because there’s other aspects to take issue with…

    It’s the implied power dynamic and special grammar rules I don’t like. Capitalizing pronouns, especially since OP says They’re a goddess, feel is like lifting Them up above me, which I don’t feel is fair to me or anyone else. Then I also need to give Them special grammar rules, like they/them, my default gender-neutral pronouns, no longer being neutral? It feels like capitalization should be orthogonal to pronoun choice, but now everyone needs to relearn grammar. Most neopronouns are just learning a new word, not upending grammar. I’ve even noticed it changing how I’m reading replies in these threads, because the capitalized pronouns catch my eye like they’re the start of a sentence or a name I should take note of, they tricked me! I guess the only nice thing for me is it seems to more easily differentiate when a pronoun is referring to inanimate objects or a capital pronouns user.

    Assuming OP is genuine (as you probably should), I think the main issue is the undue burden of everyone having to lower ourselves under our capitalized goddess. Should we be required to use a signal that implies You’re above us? When I switch to she, “she” doesn’t change the power dynamic between me and someone else, but if I said my pronoun is “master”, I think people would rightfully refuse. It doesn’t matter if OP sees this as a power thing, because most other people will and so forcing them to use it will bring up that feeling. Yes OP, I don’t want to make a trans person suicidal, but I also don’t want to make everyone around them feel lesser; and as You said, it doesn’t matter what others think, it matters what the person feeling it feels.

    I did want to be respectful, and I think I got all the pronouns correct for OP, but it did make me uncomfortable for the reasons described above. In this thread I’ll try to capitalize pronouns as a show of respect, but I’d rather leave it in this thread to respect myself.













  • Exactly, which is why I’m confused why you started off saying you’re straight. Clearly you said it for a reason, but it doesn’t seem relevant to anything, so I don’t know the reason. My best guess was that you meant it like “hey, I’m not trans either so I’m empathizing with you here” which is why I asked if you meant cis, because the opposite of trans is cis, not straight.

    To clarify, I’m not attacking, I’m just trying to figure out what you meant.