Oh, I was asking to mark as NSFW in direct messages. Bad idea.

Are you? Again, I dare you to announce how you’ve handled my ban.

I mean that expectations of what is NSFW align with comments and reports (you mentioned votes, but idk how there are related here), that’s what I am replying to. But ok, I will consider doing a post.

I think we can put an end here? There are still things that I do not agree with, but it can go indefinitely long and I’m not very motivated to continue in the near future.

I am removing the ban. I hope it will help resolve this situation. I admit that Marisa post could be handled differently and from third person view my actions can be viewed as unreasonable.

Since you keep wanting a label …

The way you write that suggests that you still think that you bringing here misogynism and “hangups concerning the human body” is completely fair and not to just put a label. So I would like to know where do they start and end, because it just seams that you are using these terms to frame peoples that does not agree with you. I don’t think that topics about being a moderator and sane online communications are much different.

The only thing my behaviour shows, is that I get mad when wronged, and complain when I think things can be done in a better way.

There is more to it. Like actively expressing how mad you are through your speech tone.

But you don’t respect my opinion, nor do you ask or seemingly care what your own users think.

Agreeing and respecting are separate things. Latest changes were done, because user suggested it, and you know it. Also every change to the rules (maybe except some old ones) is documented in post descriptions.

In fact you basically admit to using what I’ve had to say as license to think less of me

Yes, I judge peoples based on their actions. I said it explicitly. Based on what I have seen at the time I believe my actions were fair.

… the way Lemmy specifically wants it.

I’m not sure if there is a Lemmy as a group with uniform mindset. Maybe more like an individual instance or even community or group of communities. I won’t be surprised if political, tech and anime parts of Lemmy are like completely different worlds. The same story with Twitter, someone knows it for mind numbling political debates, someone is there to just look at some pics.

Like I said in our original exchange, using nsfw tags when unnecessary harms community visibility and discovery …

To what extent rules should be soft to minimize NSFW rated images, when tags are necessary? I still think that NSFW filter is useless and nobody knows what user might expect being NSFW or not, even if we are talking just about Lemmy userbase. Instead they should filter communities and instances, and have expectations what can be put under NSFW in particular community. That’s how it already is in Twitter and Mastodon.

Take that danbooru is might be moderated by small group with hot takes is understandable.

What the average person does do, is report, comment and vote on social media.

Then we at touhou at LW are fine. It’s just you not liking the fact that your disrespectful behavior wasn’t tolerated. I would rather stick with peoples who can voice their opinion without disparaging anyone or being snarky. And you doesn’t seem to acknowledge issues in what you have written under two last posts at LW or prove that what you free of these issues.

Not sure what are you trying to prove by saying how many communities you moderate. Peoples being against the group they belong to isn’t something surprising. Also constructing an opinion about a person judging by their actions is just an obvious way to do that imo.

What you did is just put a label on me, because in most cases it’s so easy, these label have strong associations and lift the responsibility of actually proving your point. I would like you explain where the “misogyny” starts and ends. Is that Youmu post located beside or far from the border on a “good” side? Or where is this border located? Naked photos are probably located on a NSFW side. If you apply dichotomy (though I don’t think NSFW-ness of pictures can always be compared with each other) you will approach to your own border. Whatever it will be, there will be someone to accuse you of something, like cultures that believe display of a feet being inappropriate. I’m not here to judge them or you disagreeing with them. Maybe the least controversial way is to say that person should be free to decide what they want to wear and which photos to make, not be ashamed of their body, but it’s completely useless in this situation.

Artist commentary is a line from this song: link. Where Marisa gets drugged on mushrooms and goes to Rinnosuke’s home. Words on the picture “I send up the scream”, indicate her screaming at the end because how wrecked she was. But even without this context it’s clear what’s happening here. Touhou lore also says that she leaves in a magic forest full of hallucinogenic or dangerous to human shrooms, which makes fanon of Marisa doing drugs isn’t something far distant from canon.

I check danbooru because I don’t believe in superiority of my opinion, which I believe is completely ok. I already admitted that your last post could be handled differently and explained reason of your ban at that time. At that point you just kicking a dead horse. And the average pretty much lies in the probably biggest tagged and rated image collection on the internet (tho with flaws which I will try to patch out), which can be conveniently consulted. And I see no reason why Touhou at LW or any other community have to conform with your “dozen communities” at ani.social. If I did invest into making a lot of communities with my set of rules, maybe not even based on danbooru, it wouldn’t be a valid reason for everyone to go with that too. But not completely unreasonable too.

Didn’t receive it:

Would you even have checked the image rating

I have reverse search extension on both phone and pc. I checked it because she was drugged up so much that she had a head pain (judging by hands position and face expression) and tear coming from her eye. Which suggests “Hard or illegal drug use”. Another reason to check your post was the previous interaction with you, where you showed of your “haha moderator” mindset and basically called me a boomer who asks women to dress up and someone who accommodates peoples with “hangups concerning the human body”. It all really seemed like an attempt to push your opinion using labels. I wasn’t insulted by it, but it made a certain impression of you.

You made assumptions, and they were wrong

This whole discussion kinda proves that they were right.

If that’s genuinely what you want …

No. I want you to fight your strong antagonism. After that I will have some hope that you won’t start doing something stupid again and will unban you without any restrictions. I will even be ok if you will continue on ani.social. It will be a bit unfortunate, but, alright. I admit that your last post probably could be handled differently and there were faults in the rules, likely they are still there. Honestly, I don’t think you deserve any apologies, though I’m not asking for any from you too.

Two in one response:
To @MentalEdge@ani.social

I didn’t know that banned person can’t view the community, that would probably made me reconsider the ban. And I don’t have any personal bans, so I see all messages. I did respond to you privately. And the only place where I didn’t, is the mentioned thread, because you was banned.

I recommend you to look again at your response when I asked you about being aware of the rules. If it was something like “I do, but I {didn’t check, overlooked it, etc}. Also I disagree with rules and will stop posting here”, it and post deletion wouldn’t look like another tantrum.

IIRC when I saw your comment about deleting your contributions, your posts and comments were already missing, so I banned that alt as you asked and thought there was nothing left to do. Initially, posts and comments weren’t purged, so peoples could better understand the reasoning of the ban and it didn’t look like a censorship. After about a week they appeared again, I thought you changed your mind, but now it’s just confusing why it happened.

I will stress it again: you was banned for deliberately breaking the rules. Not because of some incompatibility between you and them. No changes to the rules would automatically lead to your unban. Another person said that he doesn’t agree with danbooru rating (in a more polite way), but also don’t mind tagging them according to danbooru, so I decided to make them less strict to reduce back and forth with poster asking them to change tag, while giving control to mods and contributors to avoid bikeshedding rating decision to hell and prevent rating drifting too much away from danbooru. Initially, danbooru supposed to be playing such role and nobody was mad about it. If that was your idea, then I guess we agree on something.

@sag@lemm.ee mentioned your unban. I can do it, if you will address your strong antagonism. Else you can write something like “I request you to ban me if I make a post or comment in touhou@lemmy.world” to let you see posts and prevent you from exploiting any wiggle rooms, because I don’t know what you can pull of again. It’s insanely silly and I would want to avoid going this route.

To @sag@lemm.ee

I’m not opposed to automation tools, but not going to special case them in rules. And it isn’t the end of the world if post was tagged wrong, of course.

can just say to mark it as NSFW

That what usually happens. M.E. was banned for deliberately breaking rules. There was already a discussion going in the earlier post, that I asked to mark as NSFW. I stopped responding, because I wanted to take a break and focus on my other problems. After some time M.E. posted again and it was the mentioned work. I asked if they were aware that Sensitive danbooru pics have to be marked as NSFW, but they gave a snarky response, not answering the question. I understood it as an attempt to force me back into discussion by posting something that doesn’t comply with the rules and banned him.

Star looks too much like a Reimu

https://youtube.com/shorts/p-LEy5JOnVk

This comm was quite Nazrinless for a while. Have to fix it.

Thanks, fixed. Previous post had a mistake in title for a whole day, so it’s probably me going insane.

It’s already October 23, is contest over?

She looks like a Reimu with a leaf on her head. Maybe she is in a good mood today? 😊

For those who interested: Sentaku Bune uploaded 3 more pics on Pixiv: https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/123316787

One of them:

Most probably just random Reimu pic and unrelated to continuation, since she definitely died with counter being decremented.

I dug up my Katakana cheatsheet - yep, we got a cat reference here.

Adding examples doesn’t seem like a bad idea. We can look at older Sensitive posts that weren’t noticed. They are most likely are good candidates for examples. Or search Sensitive pics on Danbooru and choose from them. I want to take a look, but can’t promise it will be soon.

Bonus

Probably my first Touhou encounter was a breathtaking Mokou theme track - “Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke” by ZUN. I searched online who’s ZUN and then what’s Touhou, listened for a couple more tracks, liked them, but didn’t really got into Touhou.

After years I saw KKHTA part 6 intro animated by PEAR, then decided to watch KKHTA (content warning) itself. I liked a lot complex non-linear narrative, lack of plot armor (these two also reminded me Homestuck, which I absolutely enjoyed) and an abrupt ending. It wasn’t enough, so I finally started exploring Touhou and fan works. (still didn’t complete any classic Touhou game as of today)