The people who aren’t guarunteed to vote democrat not matter what fall into two major categories 1) anti-genocide center left. These people want to be able to vote democrat, but simply can’t compromise so far to the right as Biden has gone. Pressing the brakes on Israel support is not a super high bar, this group is looking for any sign that the Democrats are capable of listening 2) people who saw the debate performance and think Biden is too old.

Neither of these groups are hard to capture, and the reason most people aren’t strongly calling for any specific candidate is probably because everyone understands it would foster divisiveness and be pointless. The most logical choice would be Harris; she would get access to Biden campaign funds, she’s been in the whitehouse, she’s a woman when abortion is on the ballot, she’s responsible for Biden’s support by black voters and she has distanced herself from Biden’s braindead support of Israel. And, of course, she’s not ancient.

So if I was speculating I would say it would be her who would quickly move to the front of whatever convention process might happen if Biden stepped down, but more importantly I think people are being unspecific because they don’t need a specific person, they need “Not Biden” because at this point Biden is a surrogate for a Trump win. So think of it as “Not Trump”.

“Well, when the founders created ‘separation of church and state’ they actually meant that churches should operate separate from the laws of the government.”

-Our Supreme Court probably (2025)

And Democrats were complicit the whole time, ignoring the explicit warning signs in their blind greed for more corporate money.

I was thinking about it, and I feel like the only demographic that wants Biden to stay in are Israeli trolls.

They’re the only group that benefits by either Biden or Trump win, I think that’s why there’s such a weirdly forceful push to shut down discussion of Biden leaving, it would mean a chance that a non-Zionist might win. But if it’s Biden v Trump Israel gets a faithful genocide supporter either way.

You’re underestimating just how much contempt there is for Biden. He’s losing to a Trump even more now after the debate, absolutely hemorraging support. He simply cannot win. He’s alienated the anti-genocide part of the party, calculating that he could afford to give them the finger if he tried to suck up to independents and non-existent disillusioned maga chuds. And now independents are abandoning him.

There’s no evidence that the party would be split on a different candidate, the only argument I’ve heard for Biden up to this point is “Vote blue no matter who. He’s not Trump.”, which can be applied to literally anyone. Even Harris has a better chance against Trump at this point, the numbers show that.

The anti-genocide people do not want Trump, but Biden literally made it impossible for them to vote for him, they will vote for basically anyone else if given the chance. Harris even has the benefit of having distanced herself from Biden’s insane support of Israel, and she’s a woman and not a catholic so she’s going to be stronger with women on abortion, she’s also the reason Biden has any of the black vote.

Biden is a sinking ship, the life raft is not great but it will work better than just staying onboard and going down with him.

The political compass is a means to normalize right-wing political philosophy – it’s three right-wing quadrants against one left, and implies by its design that the “sensible” centrist position includes some degree of compromise with fascism. It’s a political trojan horse for far-right ideology.

Fuck the political compass. That can stay on reddit.

You’ve made the mistake thinking that this is about democracy and the American people, in reality it’s about his ego and more than a dash of creeping dementia.

The man is living decades in the past. He thinks the GOP and Dems are still working together for the same corporate goals, he thinks hes dealing with Golda Meir’s Israel, he thinks he has 50 years to deal with climate change.

Biden is just out of touch with reality and is too stubborn to listen to anyone telling him he’s about to drive the family van into a crowd of pedestrians because “I’ve been driving for 60 years! I know what I’m doing, stop trying to influence me!”

There is a global authoritarian campaign to undermine democracies across the globe, the US is not the only country having serious trouble right now.

It’s a link aggregator, if you don’t like politics you’re in the wrong format of social media.

She could be if he stepped down, yes. That’s the entire point of the discussion we’re having.

I’m going to assume you’re a troll at this point.

No, the rest of us know, you don’t know because you haven’t been paying attention. Polling shows Biden losing by almost 10 points. Even Kamala Harris has better numbers.

So if you actually wanted the best chance, you’d be wanting him to step down. But I’m guessing you don’t.

You’ve never offered a viable solution to who else could successfully win the election…

Yes. I have. Repeatedly.

At this point even Harris has better polling numbers than Biden. Literally. Harris has a better chance at beating Trump, which means any democrat the party chooses has better odds than Biden. She is literally more viable.

I’d say anyone who’s arguing Biden must be the one at this point is the one trying to sabotage the Dems chances because he’s pretty much guarunteed to lose.

If he was trying to save American democracy he’d step down, this is about his bloated sense of self importance.

He’s going to lose if he runs. He’s the single worst option for Democrats.

It’s not good. Biden stands the worst chance against Trump, which is why concern trolls are so desperate to shut down and dismiss any discussion of replacing him.

They made it seem like he was promising that, but he never actually committed to that idea.

Our democracy is going to crash into the side of a mountain because of this guy’s selfish pursuit of a personal legacy that’s never going to materialize.

Well, that’s on him, and so is his loss and all the consequences that come from it. All to try and satisfy his ego. Insanity.

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“Temporarily” has a pretty consistent habit of becoming permanent. It’s either malicious or extremely naive on Lenin’s part to believe that ypu can concentrate power into the hands of a few people and then they’ll just voluntarily give it up.

Which term is Xi on now at this point again? Oh right, he made himself dictator for life…

-Looks out window. Lawn’s engulfed in flames. Closes window shades.-

“All better.”

Yes, Lenin also prescribed dictatorship. His mindset was inextricable from the imperialist context he lived in, it limited his ability to imagine further. Which is part if why communism has always failed or collapsed into a fascist state capitalism (like China).