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  • J’ai l’impression qu’il manque tout le point des moyens contractuels inventés et mis en œuvre par l’église pour exploiter des terres et recevoir des rentes liées uniquement a la possession de la terre, qui met quand même un point de départ intéressant (et antérieur a ce papier) au capitalisme moderne.

    De toute façon faire le tri entre capitalisme, propriété autre que d’usage, domination sociale etc. est compliqué et je pense multiforme.


  • Certains d’ici non plus.

    Ma question n’est pas des individus mais de l’instance. Faut faire la part des choses. Ici on est bien, et si on regarde on a quelques boulets qui trainent, probablement dont moi, et au final c’est ça qui est bien. Après si l’instance entière cautionne de la merde invasive ça le fait plus. Mais la si je poste la bas c’est aussi leur terrain, et honnêtement, mis a part un boulet que j’ai bloqué les autres sont très civils même si ils ne sont pas d’accord avec moi.


  • you define France by…

    Yes and no. You don’t define a Lemmy community or a group of people like that. You may at best define a country, but that wasn’t what I pointed out, nor is it what was stated.

    France by its government, medias, and the propaganda believed by the overwhelming majority of its population, seems like a fair shortcut,

    No. That’s the whole point. Because as soon as that line of thought is cautioned, you only need a drop of social or economic domination to create a racist trend.


  • Correction : Someone states a French speaking community should be defederated on the basis of being pro-French

    This is not what was posted or claimed.

    If you really hate the current actions of France then we have the same “values”/beliefs/ideology

    Define the actions of France. Is that of the French government? Is that of the French people? If it is of the French people considering there is basically a third econoLibs, a third racist and a third normal people in France at the moment, which third are you referring to? When considering the neoliberals, are you splitting the ones who are really neoliberals and the ones who just had neoliberal propaganda dumped onto them?

    I personally despise what the French government is up to, the country’s current constitution and its authoritarian uses. But French people / France is also Solidaires/SUD, bars like le saint sauveur in Paris (historic antifa bar)… People are not a stable mix, and you can take the most hideous imperialistic regime and still find decent people in the country. Rejection of people or communities based on prejudice and labelling is scaringly close to racism.


  • To admit to being french is to admit to being liberal at best.

    Born in a country = be liberal at best.

    Would the rest of your post be different I would classify this as a top racism.

    Claiming and defending being ‘French’ perpetuates what Fanon called the compartments of the colonial world.

    Which is totally the opposite of what happened. Someone calls out an instance for being French and I just pointed that out as being xenophobic. Now your whole argumentations would tend to prove that I was correct in the first place and that judging people for being born somewhere is being xenophobic.

    Those who take offence at a rejection of ‘French’, ‘German’, ‘British’, ‘Australian’, etc, need to ask themselves what it is they are claiming allegiance to.

    Those who confuse the rejection of a country with the rejection of the people living in that country need to ask themselves what it is they are claiming allegiance to.


  • On my app, I don’t see the flag. But i don’t give a shit about flags in the first place. Mixing in an agressive manner people, countries and Lemmy communities is plain stupid. And flag wavers deserve the cold shoulder in my book, whatever flags they wave.

    As for the rest of your diatribe, I don’t know of a single country that can be proud of its past. Countries are shit. And mixing nations / people / countries is a shit xenophobic attitude.

    She’s not “racist”, since she doesn’t hate me for being french

    Yeah cool. Someone states a French speaking community should be defederated on the basis of being French, starts insulting the people but they’re not xenophobic, they have a French friend. That line of argumentation is the worst you could do.












  • Wanting to defederate because of a nationality.

    Calling an entire people racialist punks.

    Being called out out and defending as “that’s a right wing argument”

    Calling a community which is against imperialism, nationalism, and racism : “racist chauvinists who’ll justify colonialism and genocide”

    Are you sure you’re all right? I understood this to be a leftist space, are you even in the right community ?