“Ha, these two were deeply in love and had a marriage stronger than money! What losers!” Fairly hard to make the claim the joke is at their expense.

This might be a language thing though? The phrase at their expense tends to mean that whomever is the butt of the joke. In this case, the four audience marriages are the butt of the joke as they are not as in love as the deceased.

I don’t know if you’re old enough to have spoken at funerals. There are jokes you tell while doing so, usually framed like this wherein you’re praising the deceased (usually a common memory, like their cooking) and comparing yourself or the crowd unfavourably.

Now, I’m not sure it was appropriate or wise for trump to try this at a fundraiser but it seems disingenuous to say he was making fun of the deceased, which is how most English readers would interpret the headline.

It’s inappropriate etc but it’s not exactly making fun of the dead.

I try to think about these things from a “what would a median/swing voter think if they read this AND knew the context.” I firmly believe that misleading headlines etc have helped trump by making it harder for those in the middle to trust media outlets.

Fair enough!

Oh absolutely. It’s just the phrasing of the headline implies he’s joking about how dumb or whatever the guy is instead of say, that he had a beautiful and loving marriage.

Deciding that nothing happened or is happening is pretty damned privileged in my opinion.

A good friend and her toddler needed public transit the other week and had to deal with a guy smoking hard drugs at the bus stop who, after boarding the bus and started yelling gay slurs at someone. Is she ever going to be okay putting her kid on public transit alone? Or will she need to take extra time off work to escort her kid everywhere? Or work extra to afford to uber the kid to everything? Or just not leave?

That’s a pretty sketchy but not entirely unusual occurrence here in Vancouver. My heart bleeds for those struggling but that also includes those who need to walk downtown, those who are vulnerable (more than a few girls I know are worried, with good reason, if they have to leave their places alone at night) or the small business owners who’ve given up after replacing their glass windows for the third time in a month. As a reasonable sized dude, I’m fine kind of wherever but I think it’s essential to remember that empathy goes both ways.

Never got around to that one, worth it?

I don’t think it’s at his expense? The idea is that the deceased and his widow were in love and would value each other more than money:

‘This is so nice, and I appreciate it, but I’d much rather have my husband.’

whereas he claims that some people in the audience would be thrilled to trade their spouses for money.

Hate trump but I think RawStory is misrepresenting this as they do much else.

Here is the reporting for the Guardian, a mpre legitimate source of news:

Then, recalling a meeting with Comperatore’s widow, Helen, he made a risky attempt to find humour in the tragedy. “So they’re going to get millions of dollars but the woman, the wife, this beautiful woman, I handed her the cheque – we handed her the cheque – and she said, ‘This is so nice, and I appreciate it, but I’d much rather have my husband.’ Now, I know some of the women in this room wouldn’t say the same.”

As dinner guests erupted in laughter, Trump quipped: “I know at least four couples. There are four couples, Governor [Abbott], that I know and you’re not one of them. At least four couples here would have been thrilled, actually.”

I absolutely agree. Almost every RawStory piece I see is pretty garbage and the exact type of nonsense and same wanton disregard for fact that infuriates me about the Right’s media ecosphere.

My regular stream site started having issues tonight, so this was kind of miraculous timing! Hopefully one of these works!

I think it’s some 3 million dollars they’re going to spend on these? At least it’s nice to know they will certainly be spending a similar amount on Qurans and whatnot /s

Awesome, much appreciated!

Fair enough! Thanks!

So say I’m dumb and don’t know how to find a fork like that…

Therapy.

Your analysis of your own interactions seems wildly off. I would talk to a professional. You seem fairly young so if your parents have extended benefits, they may still cover you.

I haven’t tagged you. Sorry!

Yup! I’m using connect and if I click the three dots at the bottom right of a comment, one of the options is “add user note.” I find it super helpful!

Thanks!

Admittedly, it helped that I already had OP tagged as “worrying incel.”

Your last post is a TIL once you have peed yourself, public transit has all sorts of unspoken rules.

https://lemmy.ca/post/30274277

I cancelled prime when they first introduced ads. But the delivery fees without prime, damn. I think I’d pirate shows if I got prime but I’m pretty sure that just makes them think they should invest in fewer shows. And damned if, pre ads, prime didn’t have a lot of my favourites (boys, invincible, end of the expanse etc.)

What a ramble. I’m just torn.