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  • 2 days before election Harris announced legalized marijuana and 1 day before that she mentuoned she would be ok looking into Gaza more.

    Her “first time homebuyers” aid was actually only for first generational homebuyers mainly immigrants and who had rented from a corporate owned apartment complex for 2 years.

    Her business aid plan was for people who already had a business operating in specific cities and areas for “black men and others” to get loans. emphasis on “others” being her’s not mine.

    It was a campaign of protecting status quo first, not people. While telling them they didn’t realize how good they had it.

    Weak is an understatement.


  • I think you are right. I am mixing up the 12th with 2024 however it was not until Bernie dropped out that everyone started calling Biden the winner.

    By March media was still calling Biden the nominee and you can find articles claiming Biden as the nominee by March 17th just with a quick Google search. Washington Post called it by March 15th in an article I can’t read from a paywall.

    After Biden won South Carolina (a single state) it was already being called as his win and by March 3rd most other candidates dropped and fell in line with Biden creating chaos in super Tuesday polling as voters were told their votes had been pointless.

    I agree with you that if you look Biden didn’t actually get the delegates needed to be the Nominee until June and that Bernie Sanders didn’t drop until the 8th of April and his campaign was struggling at that point.

    But that divide between what actually happened and how it’s recorded is part of my point.

    A large amount of effort was made to push people into a specific option and while it “worked” it does not mean it didn’t come with a cost of voter engagement.



  • Of Obama for sure. Actually passed stuff instead of worked in them and everyone sorta patted them in the back saying “good job, at least you tried” about stuff.

    A lot of those bills were basic spending bills that would have had to pass anyways with a title. Resuming loan forgiveness as it is written was nice but was hard to view as a positive and without the right PR completely missed as a positive by many.

    Which is his biggest mistake. We didn’t hear about his cabinet. No big speeches and pushing of younger replacements. No bully pulpit. Kamala showed up to break a tie a couple times but they just did it as a formality.

    Being the president isn’t supposed to just be a business man managing the books but the face and inspiration of a nation. It’s a social role as well as functional. He failed that job completely. He was the right president for the wrong time. Him not accepting that made him worse.


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    I’m not sure how to parse what you’re saying. As far as DNC rules are concerned, they “call” it once all primary races are held.

    I believe it means that you weren’t paying attention during the 2020 primaries or the news around them then. The DNC Does not wait and did not. Claiming Biden the Presumptive nominee 38 days (that number is from 2024, media declared him presumptive nominee in a period about 4 days longer in 2020 still faster than trump in 24) after the first delegate picked. Obama took 120 days. To give you an idea of how fast that was, faster than Trump’s nomination in 2020. (43 days)

    You are correct though. The primary eventually went the way it went. He lost it by the rules but there is a reason people don’t feel good about the rules presented and that needs to be dealt with.

    I would also just want to finish with the simple, how is pointing out how popular his rallies were be a negative to his electability while being an usurper to someone in social and legal discourse?


  • It’s truly almost worth thinking that the DNC has been infected with loud bad faith advisors who purposefully give bad advice at the hope that they would fail, à la: Wormtongue.

    But nahhh… It’s just a bunch of octogenarians with their fellow wealthy supporters kids acting as yes men that have lost all connection to the average voter.
    They have everything they could want and forgot the struggle and think what’s best for them is gonna be best for the new groups who just don’t have it all yet and are trying to take it away from them before their time.


  • I’m not very old but Biden certainly wasn’t for me.
    He now gave us Trump as a second term so I would lower him further.
    He gave us a nudge back into status quo in a world that is raging against it. If you were already comfortable with status quo before no wonder you view it as a miracle but it was not exactly good for a large portion even though they may end up worse after the shakeup.

    Trump is and was still the worst. But I think I do represent the electorates desire for change even if I have been having to hold my nose and vote against it for the greater good while the crazies let rip and go for broke on a dream.


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    Bernie Sanders won 3 out of 5 primaries that occurred before the DNC called it for Biden in 2020 with Buttigeg picking up 1 other. In 2016 Sanders won 23 races and was at 43% of the popular vote despite extreme pushback by the DNC. He was democratically supported cause he had people voting for him. Democratically.

    And sure but with some of the worst polling numbers Biden, did not need to or should have thought he had incumbent advantage. Mud had a better approval rating.

    And the change was from that and a protest vote of 100,000 voters voting against Biden in a primary that had no other option that’s was being ignored until the rich donors realized the polling wasnt gonna get better after the debate proved he was not fit for office.

    There was time but the argument was made that it would be difficult and all the donations already made could be immediately given to Harris as she was already on the ticket, thus letting the money flow (which the DNC outspent Trump 2:1)

    They got what they wanted which was a younger centrist willing to do Biden-esque policy without question that they thought would be easy with identity politics and being “not Trump” which is viewed as the main issue and not what issues he represents as a fix for.
    Mostly being a willingness to change from status quo.

    Which is exactly what hasn’t been allowed in races as shown before.



  • Oh yeah. But it’s people’s perceptions that everyone is hunting for anyways. It’s fake love for the working class in the way the rich love their butler but will replace him if he ever gets sick.

    But that perception and the story of the party is super important and how to win elections. The Democrats haven’t been chasing that identity and let it slip while trying to figure out who should be the candidate that cost the least amount of money for its donors.

    It’s not impossible to see how the perceptions got to where they are.


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    Institutional democrats who thought they knew what they were doing and could ignore the base of the party is to blame. Biden being top of the list. Stubborn self assured who when finally pushed to change was only willing to do it on his terms. And made a decision for everyone, again.

    One of the big stories is a Democratic party Mayor of a super Blue city being corrupt and organizing police to defend him and yet not a single member of the party has spoken out against it. Endorsed by Hakeem Jeffries.

    Status quo is far more important than listening to their base right now and hopefully it changes instead of them once again thinking they need to head further right.

    And for the love all things holy I hope the Democrats learn to stop “gaming” the election with specific counties in “blue walls” because they did advanced math that told them it was all they needed. Bare minimum should never have been the goal.