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Cake day: June 17th, 2023

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  • If I had a lib coworker that talked all the time excitedly about the election I’d feel compelled to be the buzzkill and keep mentioning she doesn’t differ from Trump on any actual substantive policy. I’d also have to keep reminding them that anything they seem to hallucinate about what Kamala wants to do as president, Biden and her could’ve done for four years now… or right now! That includes everything from ending the war/genocide in Palestine, ending the supplying of arms for endless war in Ukraine/Russia, ending the supplying of arms to Taiwan for war with China to small beans domestic stuff like unilaterally declaring cannabis to be changed to schedule 4 substance or just remove it all together… the USAG (at direction from their boss, the president) can tell the DEA they have 24 hours to do it then just keep firing and replacing the heads until someone complies. Also Biden has made ZERO moves or attempts at reckoning with SCOTUS as an entity of the overturning of Roe. He hasn’t had a law pushed to the house or senate hasn’t arrested any obviously corrupt justices, governors, etc. Pretty clear he absolutely does not care. Is Kamala gonna be minecrafting in Minecraft select justices day 1? I doubt it. My liberal coworker would either kill me or themselves before long.

    I guess I could do the same to a Trump supporter. “I dunno. Trump seems like a pussy now. Why is he exactly the same as the democrats?”






  • Literal US state propaganda.

    From the site:

    Throughout 2023, the Wilson Center’s scholarship-driven, nonpartisan analysis provided critical context to the world’s most pressing challenges. With a focus on Ukraine’s place in Europe, the Israel-Hamas war, and the state of democracy around the globe, Wilson Center staff, scholars, and its expansive community of multi-disciplinary experts responded to quickly moving world events to bring points of clarity.

    (Emphasis mine in the quote. An especially egregious part of their bullshit)

    Aka “We immediately went to work manufacturing bullshit narratives and talking points for our boys up top to repeat forever.”

    Speaking of our boys up top, “Honorable” Antony Blinken is a big fan! (About as honorable as the dump I’m taking while reading this…)

    I thought state propaganda was bad? Bloodyhands Blinken would say that, I bet. Odd. Incredibly odd!

    Also their address is literally

    Ronald Reagan Building and International Trade Center One Woodrow Wilson Plaza

    Two of the absolute worst “humans” to ever walk this earth enshrined forever in a “center” used to justify baby murder forever. Honestly, I’m gonna say “appropriate choice.” Their legacies will be just as evil and blood soaked as their lives were. Sometimes I wonder if this is some sick dark humor by the underlings who help come up with names and shit or if they’re all oblivious to these things.


  • “Relatively wealthy”

    It’s probably appropriate for Americans (and Amero-weebs aka “guys who think they’re on the team but absolutely are not” (looking at you Eastern Europeans who love America)) to stop this cope over PERSONAL WEALTH and consumption as a measure of a nationstate’s wealth overall.

    By every measurement I can think of and data exists for, China’s population is “wealthier” than America. Oh, except in the areas of, you know, the shitty things. Like concentrating wealth in a top 1% and top top 0.1% of families. Or endlessly consuming shit for no purpose other than to distract from your meaningless life. As far as what I’d call true measures of a nation’s wealth, things like (nutritious) caloric intake and availability, literacy rates, availability of healthcare (meaning the cost as well), child and adult educational opportunities and attainment, public works projects like building roads, energy grids and production ability, building rail and high tech trains… on and on. America has been declining for at least ~50 years in all of those areas. As in it just gets worse and worse. While China has been going up and up and skyrocketing in the recent decade or two.

    This kinda cuts into the roots of the “GDP discussion” or rather the insistence of capitalist-minded (or biased) economists and random people on using the irrelevant GDP figure to “show” that capitalism and the US/EU specifically are “superior” economically. Goes back to the USSR as well and now days it’s still moronically being clung to. A measurement of economic consumption means nothing about the “wealth” of nations. Unless your only measure of wealth is how many PlayStations can you buy…

    Of course all the discussions of economics between US/China also leaves out the obvious history of one nation being a settler colonial slave state turned into dominant imperial power post-world war 2. That only makes the current state of the US more pathetic. The biggest head start perhaps in history, built on immeasurable human suffering, only to throw it all away so that Elon can jump on stage and try to do an X with his body, while people are homeless on the streets and the state can only find endless funding to support genocide. I don’t think future civilizations (or whatever species might replace humans as the dominant intelligent life form if we blast ourselves from existence) will even believe what they are reading when they learn about the last few hundred years. It’s just beyond comprehension


  • I’m excited for the yearly one gaming stream of Hasan’s that I will watch eventually. He manages to make these otherwise repetitive and dull games that haven’t really been innovated upon in… 15 years now?.. somewhat interesting by playing his conservative character and sometimes pointing out the insane propaganda these corporations smash into games targeted at teens/young adults (prime propaganda targets)


  • He’s correct because he knows how to measure the temperature of the room (aka most Americans, most PEOPLE, do not like or support “war” generically. It has to be repackaged, propagandized, and sometimes done covertly to convince enough people to not care or accept it as necessary and support it)

    The problem is (and not saying you did this) people hear him shit on Liz Cheney, Dick Cheney, Bolton, even Biden/Harris, etc. and they leap to this false conclusion that Trump is actually anti-war and not just speaking the words we (almost everyone not invested in Raytheon and shit) want to hear.

    In some hyper specific scenarios Trump was less pro-war, but in other ways he was just setting the inevitable conditions for war to break out (for example in Palestine by continuing to encourage a Saudi-Israeli alliance without regard to the fate of Palestinians).

    So, again, not saying you said or meant that. But I do hear and see some of the most annoying hoglets online saying that all the time. If Trump was anti-war he wouldn’t have just fired Bolton from his job he’d have fired him from a cannon directly into Tehran so they can prosecute him for all his various thousands of crimes. Or send him to Venezuela.

    Maybe send Hillary, Pelosi and Biden on a trip to Beijing with a little phone call to Xi while they’re en route that he gives his blessing to arrest them and prosecute.

    I actually wish Trump would do this shit because not only would it be hilarious and deserved by the “victims” (most of the politicians especially the national level ones deserve this in some way or another) but it would be actually, literally, “anti-war” as in removing the warhawk pieces of shit. He’d probably be the most popular president ever with normal people too and absolutely despised by the media and also the “deep state.” Ironic that he claims to want to drain the swamp, yet never even tried. I hope he does try! (Although this is prime “monkey’s paw” territory… Bolton lands in Iran around some anti-IRGC dissidents and manages to pull on old CIA adjacent ties in the region to organize them and overthrow the current government there and Bolton is made the new Shah…)


  • US willingly or forcefully being removed from its obviously dominant position.

    Assuming the world even agrees upon having a “UN” in some form or another, the only “fair” way to do it would be a system not representative of nations but rather of people. Unfortunately this would result in the third world having all of the power, and we can’t have that of course! For reasons! So, the US is highly unlikely to surrender the power and no one can really do anything about it for the time being… what a wonderful world… the non-western aligned nations can either suck it up as they have been doing and maintain whatever sliver of protection and legitimacy the UN provides. Or leave the UN and have nothing.

    I’ve considered before the possibility of the big countries leaving, like China, India, Russia (and other smaller ones) and forming a new UN with their first resolution being to condemn the old, fake servant of US imperialism. If every nation on earth did something like that, minus the EU and US for obvious reasons, I guess it doesn’t really solve the problem but it would… do something? I dunno. The last year has proven the total meaninglessness of the UN ultimately. It’s basically just a way to “legitimize” US policies abroad and give other countries a small chance to yell at the US… but the evil shit is still happening regardless. This was always the case and always clear but holy shit has the past year really really shone on a light on how bad it actually is.



  • Indeed…

    I was listening to Ethan discuss how he met Hila and even he centers it around his “birthright” trip to Israel and the state intermingling IOF members with the visiting people in an obvious attempt to get them to marry and move there permanently. He talked about it like it’s weird that the state does this… and yet he married his wife! And I’m not intending to do like a dumb “wow he married the honeypot” or whatever. I don’t think that’s the case. But it probably should set off little bells in your brain if you’re aware of all this stuff, as he apparently was, and you find yourself doing what the state quite literally vocally says they want people to do. Maybe if they get people to do weird stuff like that… maybe they’re not honest actors. Maybe their entire media and collaborating medias should be highly suspect. I guess he’s never connected these things in his brain or he’s afraid of waking up to the reality that his wife and her family are all fully bought-in on the bullshit and he’s been eating the same bullshit, despite claiming to know it’s bullshit!, for at least a year but if we’re for real here it’s way longer than a year. Just more quiet before this past year.


  • They expect you to ask, they say no, then you say “oh, ok, that sucks. But alright!” As if the situation was like I asked for chocolate cake and you bought me vanilla on my birthday and told me tough shit. Some inconsequential menial thing.

    Those in power don’t like it when people have principles and they really really hate it when people insist on living by those principles and implementing those principles into society as a whole. You can only believe in the almighty dollar in America and any belief otherwise, such as “I would like to make dollar without killing babies,” is unacceptable. They are allowed to force the belief that killing babies is fine in pursuit of dollar though.

    Sorry for putting it into such redundant and reductive terms. It helps me though to remember that these people, capitalists and all their little subsidiaries down to the board members at universities, never actually engage in discussions with those outside of their capitalist bubble. The answer is already decided the moment you asked and nothing but force will make that change.


  • It’s incredibly obvious that Ethan has just been isolated in a bubble for a year and has done zero critical thinking about Israel or why everyone shits on Israel. He very clearly wants everyone to reach his starting position (from which HE refuses to budge no matter the piles of evidence) of “Israel MUST exist as a Jewish-majority ethnostate.” And that’s basically it.

    If you challenge that, he takes it (weirdly, imo) personally. As if a state all the way across the world existing changes his life in any fucking kind of way. The dynamic is different for his wife, still not justified, but it’s different. For him though… why? Why are you continuing to gobble this racist shit?

    It’s incredibly interesting and depressing really seeing people come out of the woodwork who claimed for years to “hate Israel” and not be Zionists now chirping endlessly as it appears the Zionist state is teetering towards collapse. I guess it’s easy to hide your true beliefs when there appears to be no danger for your ethnostate project of choice.

    It’s also very clearly a weird intertwining of him “not wanting to be wrong” (but he is… objectively so) and “taking it personally.” The former is just petty, typical insecure man-baby stuff. The latter is petty, typical Amero-brained stuff (or I suppose Westoid more broadly) where every perceived “attack” on the foundations of a nationstate is taken personally by people who identify as patriotic citizens of the state. Typical bullshit nationalism that I thought(?) we all found out was bad in the last 100 years… certainly I think Ethan would find German or Turkish nationalism weird and problematic to say the least. But when it’s America or, dumber, a foreign country that he has no ties to except he moved there and married a woman from there… it’s ok to him. Or he fails to recognize he is engaging in braindead nationalistic tendencies despite being told what he’s doing for a year. So, back to him being stuck in a bubble.


  • Yeah, I fully understand and yet feel no inclination to go to bat for Osama. I’ve read his views in this interview and a bunch of places and I’m fairly comfortable saying he was more than likely an antisemite if the definition of such is “hatred of Jews simply for being Jewish.” Now, of course I’ve also heard what you typed there from Arabs and Jews alike. It makes it extremely hard to call someone (from the region surrounding Israel) antisemitic for “hating The Jews” when an entire population literally call themselves “The Jews” while bombing civilians. The state apparatus has turned the word Jew into a religious term, ethnic term and nationalistic term. The only reason I do believe ObL is antisemitic is because of his other views regarding Islam and Judaism and such. I wish more of this type of discussion could be had within reasonable bounds without people flipping their shit, but I understand why it doesn’t happen…


  • Quite literally, yes

    Also ObL said this regarding his fighters targeting and killing American troops in the 90s

    The American government is leading the country towards hell. … We say to the Americans as people and to American mothers, if they cherish their lives and if they cherish their sons, they must elect an American patriotic government that caters to their interests not the interests of the Jews. If the present injustice continues with the wave of national consciousness, it will inevitably move the battle to American soil, just as Ramzi Yousef and others have done. This is my message to the American people. I urge them to find a serious administration that acts in their interest and does not attack people and violate their honor and pilfer their wealth.

    From here (interesting to read btw)

    I don’t know if he said or intended Zionists there rather than Jews and not going to dig into that discussion because it’s ultimately not relevant to his overall point. Americans blame people in Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Lebanon… etc. for their circumstances and use the existence of shitty governments (without context of who put the governments in power… usually British, French or Americans…) to justify killing the population as a whole because they are “complicit.” ObL’s statements about all Americans being targets for murder are exactly equivalent to how Israel and the US operate- the main difference being ObL and his networks were not backed by the wealth and military assets of the richest and dominant country on the planet. Their tactics are the same, but clearly one is more “evil” if you provide the context of who can actually pull off their terror plots. If you target civilians and people resisting imperialism and everything else, of course guys like ObL come along and are able to use the circumstances to do the same thing back to the oppressors.



  • Bro is worse than the democrats at this shit. He spent years cultivating an audience that only wants brainless content and specifically people always said they don’t wnna hear his politics. He made Leftovers with Hasan in part because of that. A place to get all his shitty opinions out. Now he’s just imploding his channel, dying on the most moronic of moronic hills.

    No one needs some American Zionist’s version of Israel’s formation (without watching it, let me guess: He, Ethan multimillionaire Klein, is somehow the victim in the narrative?) We’ve heard that shit a million times, no one but the most pathetically ignorant or evil believes it, Ethan go laze in your mansion pool until you die but do so quietly… god damn dumb people are annoying as hell. Literally so desperate to justify a genocide after 12 months… what the fuck is wrong with him


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    10 days ago

    “Changed the direction of the country”

    Gonna need a fat source on that one because for everyone who actually cracks a history book, or fuck it, skims Wikipedia even… it’s pretty clear that the US has always been a reactionary fascistic hellscape with only small moments of a glint of possible redemption immediately snuffed out as it lurches back into reactionary sentiments.

    Examples being post-Civil War reconstruction being stalled out, the constitution not being scrapped in whole in favor of a new one, etc. Or post-FDR when the more left-leaning liberal policies were working quite well, Truman gets in and immediately wants to go genocide Korea to prove he isn’t a dirty commie… or whatever bullshit.

    So, again, gonna need some sort of actually coherent explanation for how Trump is the aberration as opposed to Justice Warren and Justice Thurgood Marshall being the aberrations. The oddballs, historically, who actually managed to implement the will of the people (to a small, limited degree of course) via SCOTUS… only to spark like 70 years of asshurt from reactionaries who came up with a plan of action and executed it. Trump was just the final domino in that specific plan. It was always going to succeed eventually regardless of which republican held office because the liberals never bothered to actually substantially pushback on the reactionaries. Almost like they either agree or don’t actually care and just cynically pretend to care.


  • Especially when the punishment for refusing conscription is well known and talked about.

    Spending multiple back to back prison sentences in Israeli prison, as an Israeli Jewish person (the state’s designation since they differentiate between Jewish and “Arab”) not subject to the rape and abuses that are done to Palestinians, for potentially years vs going along with the social norm of participating in personally murdering or helping murder dozens, hundreds, maybe 1000s of innocent kids, women, men, anyone else. The choice is so clear.

    “Ok, you can join the SS and help round up and shoot Jews every day until you’re successful in extermination, we lose the war, or you dome yourself. Or! You get sent to a German-run German-prison for Germans. Not the concentration camps and definitely not any death camps. Up to you!”

    Nobody except Nazis excuses the men who wore the uniform and did that despite all of them obviously knowing it was horrific what they were doing. They justified it too by saying Jews wanted to murder them or otherwise destroy society. The same way Israelis are doing towards their victims. It’s just pathetic anyone even tries justifying this genocidal rhetoric. I prefer when they just admit how disgusting they are.