Florida will no longer accept driver's licenses issued by some other U.S. states to immigrants living in the country illegally under a law signed by Governor Ron DeSantis as he seeks the 2024 Republican presidential nomination.
From my basic understanding, those states, you’d need a REAL ID to be a valid driver. I know I don’t have one.
It would be used as pretense to stop those out of state plates, that will be in their own classification, and come up as a flag on officer computers, scanners etc. From there it’s all discretion on the officers part on how they handle it. If their boss needs bodies, they’ll be had, ime.
I won’t be going to Florida anytime soon, for sure.
The news articles and posts about it are deliberately vague to generate outrage. The bill only applies to licenses exclusively issued to people without legal status.
The law focuses on specific classes of driver’s licenses in Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Rhode Island and Vermont. It doesn’t invalidate the licenses but rather classifications given to those without immigration status in the United States.
That includes licenses with classifications such as “Not For Federal Identification”, “Driving Privilege Only” and “Not Valid for Identification
“Not for federal indefication” is used for all non real id’s, right?
So do these all now fall into their own classification regardless of legal status?
I’m guessing this is to catch commercial drivers with higher endorsements, possibly a semi or bus driver. States regularly have stricter licensing guidelines than each other, and Florida has added citizenship as a requirement. The listed states apparently do not check this.
Ah I think I grasp it now. So those states that don’t check legal status are now, by default, all getting classified on FLs end? It seems like a rather unnecessary contact point for our legal system, and has potential to be abused, outside of illegal immigrants.
From my understanding, non-real ID can still be used for federal identification- seeing as they can still be used to enter federal buildings and verify identity in other ways. It’s just viewed as a less standardly secure form of federal identification.
if youre hispanic and from california this could be a “valid” pretext for a stop. and then whatever is found in the stop is allowed to be used against the person. the person described above couldve been born here but with this law their rights are violated because of the way they look.
From my basic understanding, those states, you’d need a REAL ID to be a valid driver. I know I don’t have one.
It would be used as pretense to stop those out of state plates, that will be in their own classification, and come up as a flag on officer computers, scanners etc. From there it’s all discretion on the officers part on how they handle it. If their boss needs bodies, they’ll be had, ime.
I won’t be going to Florida anytime soon, for sure.
The news articles and posts about it are deliberately vague to generate outrage. The bill only applies to licenses exclusively issued to people without legal status.
http://laws.flrules.org/2023/40
Thanks for clarification.
I am confused cause I found :
That includes licenses with classifications such as “Not For Federal Identification”, “Driving Privilege Only” and “Not Valid for Identification
“Not for federal indefication” is used for all non real id’s, right?
So do these all now fall into their own classification regardless of legal status?
Im still still confused.
I’m guessing this is to catch commercial drivers with higher endorsements, possibly a semi or bus driver. States regularly have stricter licensing guidelines than each other, and Florida has added citizenship as a requirement. The listed states apparently do not check this.
Ah I think I grasp it now. So those states that don’t check legal status are now, by default, all getting classified on FLs end? It seems like a rather unnecessary contact point for our legal system, and has potential to be abused, outside of illegal immigrants.
From my understanding, non-real ID can still be used for federal identification- seeing as they can still be used to enter federal buildings and verify identity in other ways. It’s just viewed as a less standardly secure form of federal identification.
if youre hispanic and from california this could be a “valid” pretext for a stop. and then whatever is found in the stop is allowed to be used against the person. the person described above couldve been born here but with this law their rights are violated because of the way they look.
That’s how I read it. What’s vague about it?