• MarkHughes4096@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Don’t the lib dems have rejoining or closer ties as part of their manifesto ? or did I not recall properly…

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      Yeah but apparently we can’t forgive them for tuition fees. Absolutely barmy but that’s UK politics 🤷. Let’s just keep voting Tory and Labour until we all die.

      No but seriously, we need PR and then we need a coalition to support closer meaningful ties to the single market (or choose your variation of that). However the two biggest blockers to PR are Labour and the Tories which we keep voting for because of some tribal allegiance that (for most) started 40 years ago in the eighties… when they weren’t even born!

      Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

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        Started because of the 70s Three day working week to manage the rolling power cuts, miners strikes fuel crisis, then tortured by thatcher who was set to nuke the unions of the face of the planet. Blues hate working class, reds hate anyone who makes profits, and each are scared the other will do those 70s and 80s things again and again. Nevermind that Blair’s Labour was a middle right party, and nothing like the Red Ken memories of Labour past, and it seems like tories have moved out to the right while Labour have moved into their old chairs. I don’t know what SDP liberals stand for

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          reds hate anyone who makes profits

          Maybe the voters. The party itself is doing its best to sideline anyone who’s actually red and instead promote its centrists and blue-thinkers.

          Tangentially, there’s profit and there’s greed. A lot of profit-hatred is, or has evolved out of, profiteer-hatred.

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        Voting for a party that will get into bed with the Tories at the first sign of power coming their way, a party that has repeatedly said they will not do a deal with Labour, is a vote for another Tory hegemony.

        Lib Dems had one chance to show they wouldn’t sell out and they used it to betray their core demographic that got them power. They don’t deserve a second chance.

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          They don’t deserve a second chance.

          Then we don’t deserve another referendum. We had one chance. Brexit Max it is! 🥹

          Voting for a party that will get into bed with the Tories at the first sign of power coming their way, a party that has repeatedly said they will not do a deal with Labour, is a vote for another Tory hegemony.

          This is a seriously fucked up way to think about politics in the long run. It damns is all to tribal allegiances.

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            Politics is fucked up, glad you noticed. Lib Dems are also sellout liars and there will never be another referendum. Sorry to burst all your bubbles at once, but that’s the way it goes in this country.