I agree the plot is mediocre, but it stays mediocre through the end. Moana just drops off a cliff after the second act. I can’t remember anything significant because nothing significant really happens in terms of resolving the story arcs. Of course, this is just my opinion.
Frozen takes the traditional “princess meets prince, they fall in love” trope and turns it on its head. While in many Disney princess movies, the prince is the source of resolution, and Frozen starts out painting this picture, by the end it is clear that the guy who suddenly appeared in Anna’s life and tried to court her is not a good guy. The foreshadowed act of true love is actually about her relationship with her sister.
While this kid’s movie is not overwhelmingly complex in plot, it’s understandable if some would put it a bit above Moana, which is also a good movie. But the plot of Moana is essentially a duo going on a MacGuffin hunt with a few character-shifting plot points sprinkled onto that path. But it’s more colorful and has a wider range of enjoyable songs, so depending on what you like, it may be a better watch. To each their own.
I guess you’re right, I’m looking at it too much with my “adult eyes”. But yeah, when looking at it this way it’s just … bad, like really, from every angle - premise, plot, characters and their motivation, … I have a really hard time to finish it when my daughters watch it.
And I know people say “it’s just a Disney fairytale” but so is f.e. Tangled and it handled all those points perfectly. And yet the Frozen is the all-time-hit and not Tangled. But as you said, it’s aimed at little girls and not grumpy old man like me :) And from that point of view it did a perfect job obviously.
PS Moana is just amazing and “You’re welcome” is one of my most fovorite songs of all time! :)
It’s because Elsa was originally written as a villain until Let It Go was written and they pivoted the story so it’s less one dimensional than most Disney films
Ok that explains a lot actually :D Because this is one of my main problems with the film, have you noticed how many people Elsa tries to murder? And not like by accident, murder on purpose, in anger but on purpose! Including Anna, that snow troll would for sure murder her if it wouldn’t be for Hans
Moana > Frozen, imo.
Moana drops in the second half big time. Frozen remains pretty consistent and subverts the princess falling in love trope.
I kind of feel like Frozen makes no sense and is a loosely contrived plot wrapped around what they knew would be a hit song.
I agree the plot is mediocre, but it stays mediocre through the end. Moana just drops off a cliff after the second act. I can’t remember anything significant because nothing significant really happens in terms of resolving the story arcs. Of course, this is just my opinion.
By far imo. To this day I don’t understand the popularity of Frozen. Maybe because there are 2 princesses?
Frozen takes the traditional “princess meets prince, they fall in love” trope and turns it on its head. While in many Disney princess movies, the prince is the source of resolution, and Frozen starts out painting this picture, by the end it is clear that the guy who suddenly appeared in Anna’s life and tried to court her is not a good guy. The foreshadowed act of true love is actually about her relationship with her sister.
While this kid’s movie is not overwhelmingly complex in plot, it’s understandable if some would put it a bit above Moana, which is also a good movie. But the plot of Moana is essentially a duo going on a MacGuffin hunt with a few character-shifting plot points sprinkled onto that path. But it’s more colorful and has a wider range of enjoyable songs, so depending on what you like, it may be a better watch. To each their own.
I love using Hans as an example when I’m trying to explain to my children that sometimes bad people will pretend to be nice to you.
Little girls love the stories about sisters (and boys too maybe! but I have no experience with that) and about having magical powers.
Frozen kinda speaks to both of those things directly, and while those themes are also somewhat present in Moana they don’t scratch the same itch.
That being said, I’ve yet to meet any kid that likes either one to dislike the other, even if they have a particular favorite.
I guess you’re right, I’m looking at it too much with my “adult eyes”. But yeah, when looking at it this way it’s just … bad, like really, from every angle - premise, plot, characters and their motivation, … I have a really hard time to finish it when my daughters watch it.
And I know people say “it’s just a Disney fairytale” but so is f.e. Tangled and it handled all those points perfectly. And yet the Frozen is the all-time-hit and not Tangled. But as you said, it’s aimed at little girls and not grumpy old man like me :) And from that point of view it did a perfect job obviously.
PS Moana is just amazing and “You’re welcome” is one of my most fovorite songs of all time! :)
It’s because Elsa was originally written as a villain until Let It Go was written and they pivoted the story so it’s less one dimensional than most Disney films
Ok that explains a lot actually :D Because this is one of my main problems with the film, have you noticed how many people Elsa tries to murder? And not like by accident, murder on purpose, in anger but on purpose! Including Anna, that snow troll would for sure murder her if it wouldn’t be for Hans