The only thing a tolerant society can’t tolerate is intolerance. Nazis have no place on American land and either need to be driven from it or buried in it.
If someone refuses to abide by the terms of tolerance, then they have no right to be protected by it.
Yes. Although it’s correct to point to Popper’s paradox of tolerance, it’s better to regard tolerance to be the terms of the contract that provides your rights and protections. Oh, you want to void someone’s rights? Don’t expect the protections of the contract if you’re in breach of its terms.
This (treat it like a contract, or like a treaty) doesn’t just avoid the mind-boggling that some people experience trying to get their heads around a paradox, it provides tools by which to restore a broken peace.
Groups like that typically have a core with a number of insane leaders they just have to be locked up, key thrown away, but most of the people around it are just… well, lost, really. These are people that really feel they’re thr good guy, trying to protect from what they’ve been taught is evil.
Show then they’re wrong. Show them that the evil doesn’t really exist but in their heads. You can talk with them, at least TRY to reason with them…
You can’t use reason to convince someone out of a position they didn’t reason their way into… I agree that should still be the first step, but I wouldn’t expect it to work for the majority of them. Cognitive dissonance is a bitch to overcome, especially if they aren’t willing to accept the possibility they might be wrong.
The only thing a tolerant society can’t tolerate is intolerance. Nazis have no place on American land and either need to be driven from it or buried in it.
Tolerance is an agreement, not a suicide pact. If someone refuses to abide by the terms of tolerance, then they have no right to be protected by it.
Yes. Although it’s correct to point to Popper’s paradox of tolerance, it’s better to regard tolerance to be the terms of the contract that provides your rights and protections. Oh, you want to void someone’s rights? Don’t expect the protections of the contract if you’re in breach of its terms.
This (treat it like a contract, or like a treaty) doesn’t just avoid the mind-boggling that some people experience trying to get their heads around a paradox, it provides tools by which to restore a broken peace.
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What does greater punishment have to do with a threat to society?
Harsh penal systems cause more crime.
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Is that not exactly where we are right now?
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Tal with them.
Groups like that typically have a core with a number of insane leaders they just have to be locked up, key thrown away, but most of the people around it are just… well, lost, really. These are people that really feel they’re thr good guy, trying to protect from what they’ve been taught is evil.
Show then they’re wrong. Show them that the evil doesn’t really exist but in their heads. You can talk with them, at least TRY to reason with them…
You can’t use reason to convince someone out of a position they didn’t reason their way into… I agree that should still be the first step, but I wouldn’t expect it to work for the majority of them. Cognitive dissonance is a bitch to overcome, especially if they aren’t willing to accept the possibility they might be wrong.
What’s the alternative?
Jail them? Forever? If not, one day they’ll be free and angrier than ever.
Deport them? Where?
Ignore them? That doesn’t sound like a good idea either
The only real solution I see is reason with them. It’ll be hard, it’ll be stupid, bit I don’t see ma y other solutions