• uberrice@feddit.de
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        1 year ago

        Reasons why I think Antifa is fascist:

        1. they paint people they don’t like as ‘Nazis’ - just like right wing fascists like to paint everyone they don’t like as a ‘jew’
        2. they endorse violence against these ‘Nazis’
        3. they self-radicalize by echo-chambering, removing themselves farther and farther from the “real world”

        Do you not agree with these statements?

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          Are they also ultra-nationalist, ultra-right-wing, and in favor of strict social hierarchies? There’s more to fascism than just being mean to people you don’t like

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            According to Britannica:

            Fascism : a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government

            While what I described is not centrally controlled by a dictator (and anyone claiming that Antifa was centrally controlled is a nutcase, I agree), the way Antifa as a collective behaves does try to “control the lives of people, not allowing them to disagree with them” - at least in my opinion. You’re free to have your own.

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              Ok but that’s not fascism

              Like, according to your own definition that you linked, and your own opinion of the control structure of Antifa, they don’t match up

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              “control the lives of people, not allowing them to disagree with them” - at least in my opinion.

              The right uses political and actual violence to prevent people from being themselves. That’s not a disagreement. That’s actual fascism.

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                While I don’t agree with the right’s current direction - I’m talking about Switzerland/Germany, not America here - I have not seen a single incident where they use political and actual violence to get their point across - where I’ve seen that a lot from the left.

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                  Right wing violence is all over the news the last three years in Germany.

                  I do however see that Antifa in the EU seem to be a lot more militant than here in the U.S.

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                    All ‘right motivated violence’ I can find in Germany is single culprits - usually deranged people doing mass shootings. While that’s terrible, yes, that’s barely related to anything to do with the broader masses of people.

                    If you have other sources, I’d love to see them