• GBU_28
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    1 year ago

    Totally agree, which I said in my comment.

    But owning property is owning it outright. You don’t own it at the whim of someone else.

    I in general do not agree with government seizure of property without compensation.

    I agree with losing your license, losing the privilege to drive and use public roads, etc.

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      @GBU_28 @JegVilleSeShitposts , all property is owned at the whim of someone else !
      The person that chooses to work for you, the customer that chooses to buy your goods, the person that chooses to sell their house, etc …
      You’re just a care taker for a short while and if you’re mistreating that privilege it should be able to be revoked!

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        1 year ago

        Wrong! You challenge bodily autonomy if you disrespect physical property.

        Do you disrespect a person’s bodily autonomy?

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          @GBU_28 @Antigrav That depends on what you mean by physical property.

          Is land physical property? What if it was stolen from the locals and passed down from the slaver father?

          I’m not saying I support theft. I’m not saying all property is theft. But it’s more complicated than that.

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          @GBU_28 , ah please.
          You’re not what you own, plus you don’t have to own the air to breathe, the water to drink and it has only been capitalisms enslavement that made food that pricey, and even today you don’t need much to grow your own.

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        1 year ago

        Fines are fine. I understand at the end of the day they behave similarly. But the value of the car may not be the right amount for the fine, and the citizen may be able to get the best sale price for the car.

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        1 year ago

        I do, with compensation. Obviously I am not suggesting there isn’t incarceration happening

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        1 year ago

        So is police brutality.

        I’m allowed to have opinions not codified in existing standards

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          @GBU_28 Yes, of course, I’m just pointing out that it’s not outside the norm. The norm can be discussed, and I want “police brutality” and “driving cars at high speeds” to be excised from the norm long before “privilege to own efficient killing machines regardless of behaviour” makes the norm.