• AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml
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    8 days ago

    You just lived through a presidency that opened more land to private drilling than ever before in history.

    From the man more responsible than anyone else alive for the modern mechanisms of white supremacy in effect today. (IT WAS A DEBATE! HAHAHA!)

    Who have without restraint, limit or condition, allowed the genocide in Gaza to proceed with an intensity determined fully by the nazis doing the killing on the ground. Reserving no expense or material when they run low.

    To invoke these things in service of your case is the rank cynicism of a fascist. Do you know the Sartre quote? How fascists can just bullshit with what they say because they feel no need to tether it to real life or anything they previously said? This election turned you into that fascist. Good job.

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      Firstly, I’m not in the US. Secondly, while I think the democrats are right-wing dipshits who’s climate action is way too little, it is at least barely something.

      Trump is actively against any climate action whatsoever.

      The democrats (the people in control, not lovely people like Bernie Sanders), have enabled Israel. But they can be somewhat, barely, reasoned with.

      Trump is actively wants Palestinians dead.

      This choice was 100% a case of lesser of two evils, and the US chose the greater.

      You calling me a fascist is bizarre when you are happy Trump won over Kamala. (Again, not from the US, and I think everything there is super, duper right wing from my point of view)

      I feel justified in commenting, because the US holds so much power over the rest of the world.

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        You must live on a different planet than I do because everything you said can be observed to be completely wrong in just the last four years.

        climate action is way too little, it is at least barely something

        They gave Elon Musk subsidies in exchange for opening more oil fields to exploitation than ever before in the country. Why am I finding myself repeating this? Is this fact in dispute or something? Can I sway you with citation?

        https://www.vox.com/climate/24098983/biden-oil-production-climate-fossil-fuel-renewables

        You can’t say that you’re moving ‘at least a little’ in a positive direction when the reality is that we’re further in the wrong direction than we ever have been!

        But they can be somewhat, barely, reasoned with.

        They fucking threw away one of their two ‘must win’ swing states because they COULDN’T be reasoned with!! Why can’t you see what the democrats are when they shove it in your face over and over again?? Again and again I see you liberals coming back with the most mind melting argument ever: “we can sway them when they don’t need us.” Is that how it went when a group of children begged for their fucking lives in front of Nanci Pelosi on the topic of climate change and she laughed them out of her office??

        The electoral system is a calculated dead end for social progress. It is designed to defeat you. I don’t know how many more times you need it demonstrated before you finally look for actual solutions.

        You calling me a fascist is bizarre when you are happy Trump won over Kamala.

        Who the fuck said that? Do you need me to add the caveat that I’d be calling you a fascist if you supported Trump? Why? Am I being fucking obtuse with the fact that I’m criticizing you from the left or are you just deliberately trying to antagonize me? I’m calling you a nazi because you support the perpetrators of a fucking genocide. There’s no more valid reason to use the name. Why are you acting like I’m happy Trump won? Because you’re fucking petty and need a comeback? Fucking childish.

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          I will edit this comment later because I’m about to hop on my bike. Please recall you called me a fascist first, and in my opinion, very unreasonably.

          On the bright side the democrats lost

          This is why I’m saying you’re happy Trump won. This is functionally the same, because of first past the post voting system.

          So, I will get back to your strange comments calling me a fascist because I dare be sad the democrats lost over Trump (if you’re not, yeah, as a leftist, that’s weird. When the choice is pretty right, and far right. There’s only one logical choice).

          I live in Australia, where at least I have preferential voting (unfortunately single member electorates, which trends towards two parties), but if you live in the US, there was only one rational choice as a leftist, and it was the bloody democrats.

          Just have to get home from work, so hang tight.